From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/66882 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Thomas Schmitz" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: \setuppublications problem Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:08:53 +0100 Message-ID: References: <874o7bvy5r.fsf@boreebo.bornier.net> <25576DBA-7D75-4B8F-8934-35CC9DBECA05@uni-bonn.de> <87ei6cvlfr.fsf@boreebo.bornier.net> <430B533D-33EE-4697-94E0-04DB7744060A@awi.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1299928149 17666 80.91.229.12 (12 Mar 2011 11:09:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:09:09 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Mar 12 12:09:03 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PyMgx-0003OL-Cj for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:09:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C48CCAAEB; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:09:02 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id l7Q4qZTyYXXS; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:08:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A319CAADF; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:08:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD52CAADF for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:08:57 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id x2DP2LLLdjv2 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:08:55 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter5-til.mf.surf.net (filter5-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.221]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2851CAADD for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:08:55 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from uni-bonn.de (mail.uni-bonn.de [131.220.15.113]) by filter5-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p2CB8rgT003398 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:08:53 +0100 Original-Received: from [93.210.224.9] (account tschmit1@uni-bonn.de) by be2.uni-bonn.de (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 5.2.12) with HTTP id 6658958 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 12:08:53 +0100 X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.2.12 In-Reply-To: <430B533D-33EE-4697-94E0-04DB7744060A@awi.de> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=131.220.15.113; country=DE; region=07; city=Bonn; latitude=50.7333; longitude=7.1000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=50.7333,7.1000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0xEib8Rvu - 101061d4786d - 20110312 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.221 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:66882 Archived-At: Hi Florian, On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:45:16 +0100 Florian Wobbe wrote: >> Have you tried \placepublications[criterium=all] or >>\placepublications[criterium=text]? > > Hi Thomas, > > you gave me exactly the same hint last week. Not only that, but someone gave exactly the same hint to Jean in December... We should >add criterium=cite and criterium=text to the Wiki >(Bibliography MKIV page: >http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography_mkiv). You are of course right, but I assume Hans is working on bibliographies right now (he promised to finish something which I need for a project in March, so that leaves him another two weeks ;-), so we should maybe wait a bit. criterium=cite should work as well, but doesn't right now. > In the beginning it was not clear to me, that >http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography refers to the >MKII implementation of Taco. Therefore, I would suggest >to rename Bibliography to Bibliography_mkii and create an >alias Bibliography that redirects to Bibliography_mkiv >instead. In the wiki pages Bibliography_mkiv and >Bibliography_mkii the first sentence should state that >the page is related to mkii/mkiv only and link to the >other page. Do you think this is reasonable? I had begun rewriting the page. There is now http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliographies which links to the other pages, and which is linked to on the front page. But another context-related project kept me away from this and I never finished this, so fell free to shuffle and rewrite things! > I would like to add a section on customising bibstyle >files and add space for sharing reference styles of >different journals. What do you think? Again, that's a very good idea, but we should maybe wait just a bit till the dust settles a bit. > In general I find it difficult to differentiate between >mkiv and mkii related information in the wiki. How could >we better structure the wiki to make it easier for the >reader? Disambiguation pages, mkiv/mkii sections, >independent pages with mkiv/mkii in headerline? Just my 2 cents on this: difficult, because you won't be able to make everybody happy. Every now and then, I see a new user on the list who asks about "installing mkiv" and doesn't realize that it is not really something which you have to install additionally. We shouldn't scare those users because in so many cases, mkii and mkiv are exactly identical, so that would be an arguments against a too stric separation. But of course you're also right that it's frustrating for users if they can't find relevant information for the areas where the two differ. As long as mkiv hasn't settled, this is not easy... 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