RE: Docbook5 to Docx, maintaining more styles

["Steve Wiseman" <swiseman-/O0duAZIVjTMaA64gmx2OwC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>]

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Hi John,

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

The styles are translating as numbered lists. That is not the issue. The general output is OK. But, let's say you now want to produce the document professionally. The user case is the customer creates the technical documents in Paligo (docbook) - makes their HTML and PDF from there. Their OEMs want the content in Word so we need to use Pandoc for that. They want a professional output that they can modify as needed. So let's say they want the bullets to be 1.5 spaces and a normal paragraph to only be be 1 space between paragraphs, we can't do it with the Pandoc output. The bullets come out as Normal or Block Text (and I can't tell anyway when it's one or the other). 

I have attached 2 small docs (docx and xml). I don't know if you allow attachments. If not, here's a link to the files - https://mega.nz/#F!xVtm1IIS!4kVAz3_gb6MrHFMU-upXlQ. 

I have marked the Word document with some comments in yellow.

Your conversion is good. It's just it would be much more helpful to provide more unique styles that can be modified. If you know a style is in a list, then give a List style. If you know a paragraph is in a table, give a para style for a table such as TableNormal. If a bullet is in a table, give TableBullet, etc. This is how professional Word documents are created. Also the same for indents. Then the author has complete flexibility of changing the document and any part of it. In Docbook you have all this information in the XML. 

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Subject: Re: Docbook5 to Docx, maintaining more styles

Are you saying that pandoc is not translating an itemizedlist in docbook as a list in Word?  Or am I misunderstanding?  In any case, please give a small example to reproduce, and let us know what version of pandoc you're using.

+++ Steve Wiseman [Jun 21 17 10:09 ]:
>   Hi. Pandoc is amazing but our client needs more control over the Word
>   output. For example, list styles would need to have their own style
>   name. Presently the output puts everything as Normal or Body Text. Is
>   there a way that the higher elements can be taken into account for the
>   style.
>   For example: <itemizedlist><listitem><para>Descriptions are based
>   Now just is Block Text or Normal. If it was "listitem" it would be much
>   better. Or even calling it "bullet" or "step" would be helpful. Then
>   the doc can be formatted much easier later.
>   Have I missed anything?
>   The Docbook was created from Paligo.
>   Thx a bunch,
>   Steve Wiseman
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with the
tweezers and remove
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								more information about service availability, contact your service provider.</para></listitem></itemizedlist></note><procedure><step><para>Remove the back cover.</para><mediaobject xinfo:product="SmartPhone A"><imageobject><imagedata fileref="image/1594a96e9f2dee.png" width="200" xinfo:image="95"/></imageobject></mediaobject><mediaobject xinfo:product="SmartPhone B"><imageobject><imagedata fileref="image/1594a96ea00a4e.png" width="200" xinfo:image="98"/></imageobject></mediaobject><caution version="5.0" xml:id="UUID-3f7bb906-9fb1-d0d7-155e-fcfe928acf95" xinfo:resource-type="hazard" xinfo:version-major="0" xinfo:version-minor="0" xinfo:time-modified="1482050233" xinfo:time-created="1464775084"><para>Be careful not to damage your fingernails when you remove the back cover.</para></caution><note role="notice" version="5.0" xml:id="UUID-626a1a7a-9642-0b63-290f-e4b4eca61fc5" xinfo:resource-type="hazard" xinfo:version-major="0" xinfo:version-minor="0" xinfo:time-modified="1482050233" xinfo:time-created="1464775084"><para>Do not bend or twist the back cover excessively. Doing so may damage the cover.</para></note></step><step><para>Insert the SIM or USIM card with the gold-coloured contacts facing downwards.</para><mediaobject xinfo:product="SmartPhone A"><imageobject><imagedata fileref="image/1594a96ea04152.png" width="200" xinfo:image="102"/></imageobject></mediaobject><mediaobject xinfo:product="SmartPhone B"><imageobject><imagedata fileref="image/1594a96ea06af8.png" width="200" xinfo:image="103"/></imageobject></mediaobject><note role="notice" version="5.0" xml:id="UUID-1ff168a9-f7b5-79c0-e0fd-b7a0ef3522ff" xinfo:resource-type="hazard" xinfo:version-major="0" xinfo:version-minor="0" xinfo:time-modified="1482050233" xinfo:time-created="1425129398"><itemizedlist><listitem><para>Do not insert a memory card into the SIM card slot. If a memory card happens to
be stuck in the SIM card slot, take the device to a Samsung Service Centre to
remove the memory card.</para></listitem><listitem><para>Use caution not to lose or let others use the SIM or USIM card. Samsung is not
responsible for any damages or inconveniences caused by lost or stolen cards.</para></listitem></itemizedlist></note></step><step><para>Insert the battery with the battery’s gold-coloured contacts properly aligned with the
device’s contacts.</para><mediaobject xinfo:product="SmartPhone A"><imageobject><imagedata fileref="image/1594a96ea0815e.png" width="200" xinfo:image="104"/></imageobject></mediaobject><mediaobject xinfo:product="SmartPhone B"><imageobject><imagedata fileref="image/1594a96ea0962c.png" width="200" xinfo:image="105"/></imageobject></mediaobject></step><step><para>Replace the back cover.</para><mediaobject xinfo:product="SmartPhone A"><imageobject><imagedata fileref="image/1594a96ea0aa83.png" width="200" xinfo:image="106"/></imageobject></mediaobject><mediaobject xinfo:product="SmartPhone B"><imageobject><imagedata fileref="image/1594a96ea0befd.png" width="200" xinfo:image="107"/></imageobject></mediaobject></step></procedure></section><?link id="182" type="ResourceLink" resource="UUID-ee146108-84a9-fb70-7ae0-7b93ce418797"?><section version="5.0" xml:id="UUID-ee146108-84a9-fb70-7ae0-7b93ce418797" xinfo:version-major="0" xinfo:version-minor="0" xinfo:resource-type="component fork" xinfo:origin="UUID-1598c0ef-957b-6b6f-ab7a-228be4499937" xinfo:time-modified="1485509451" xinfo:time-created="1436730096"><title>Removing the SIM or USIM Card and Battery</title><procedure><step><para>Remove the back cover.</para></step><step><para>Pull out the battery.</para><mediaobject xinfo:product="SmartPhone A"><imageobject><imagedata fileref="image/1594a96ea0dd28.png" width="200" xinfo:image="117"/></imageobject></mediaobject><mediaobject xinfo:product="SmartPhone B"><imageobject><imagedata fileref="image/1594a96ea0f439.png" width="200" xinfo:image="118"/></imageobject></mediaobject></step><step><para>Press the SIM or USIM card with your finger, and then pull it out.</para><mediaobject xinfo:product="SmartPhone A"><imageobject><imagedata fileref="image/1594a96ea10b18.png" width="200" xinfo:image="119"/></imageobject></mediaobject><mediaobject xinfo:product="SmartPhone B"><imageobject><imagedata fileref="image/1594a96ea120b3.png" width="200" xinfo:image="120"/></imageobject></mediaobject></step></procedure></section></section></article>

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