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Now it is working in my original Markdown file, like follows:=20 ``` documentclass: scrartcl fontsize: 12pt pagesize: a4paper lang: en-GB KOMAoption: landscape ``` I tried this one before, but could not compile it ... Hope this solution=20 will work over the long ...=20 Once again thx to all who replied! On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 6:17:00 PM UTC+2 Marek Stepanek wrote: > Merci Bastien,=20 > I found a "buggy" solution:=20 > > ``` > documentclass: scrartcl > fontsize: 12pt > pagesize: a4paper > lang: en-GB > header-includes: > - \usepackage{lipsum} > KOMAoption: > - landscape > ``` > > Buggy because putting package lipsum after KOMAoption=20 > > ``` > header-includes: > KOMAoption: > - landscape > - \usepackage{lipsum} > ``` > > I get an error:=20 > > ``` > Error producing PDF. > ! Undefined control sequence. > l.132 \lipsum > ``` > > Probably not the right way to do it. And if I add some other packages I= =20 > need, it will become probably even more buggy ...=20 > > Greetings to all > > marek > > On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 2:45:52 PM UTC+2 Bastien Dumont wrote: > >> Mmh, scrlayer-scrpage seems more specialized than that. But, even if you= =20 >> use a KOMA class, you can still set "geometry" in the YAML header.=20 >> >> Le Monday 03 October 2022 =C3=A0 01:09:38AM, 'Marek Stepanek' via=20 >> pandoc-discuss a =C3=A9crit :=20 >> > Thx again. Perhaps somebody else could help me out, with the page=20 >> layout. I=20 >> > made a Minimal (Non) working example:=20 >> >=20 >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 10:46:52 PM UTC+2 fiddlosopher wrote:=20 >> >=20 >> > I can't diagnose Koma layout issues. Maybe someone who is familiar wit= h=20 >> > Koma can give more advice.=20 >> >=20 >> > > On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:35 PM, 'Marek Stepanek' via pandoc-discuss <= =20 >> > pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> wrote:=20 >> > >=20 >> > > Thx fiddlosopher :-) Working. BUT the page layout is wrong: the body= =20 >> is=20 >> > very narrow, as if it is still portrait ... You need a minimal working= =20 >> > example?=20 >> > >=20 >> > > On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 9:30:05 PM UTC+2 fiddlosopher wrote:= =20 >> > > Sorry, should be=20 >> > >=20 >> > > classoption:=20 >> > > - landscape=20 >> > >=20 >> > > > On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:29 PM, John MacFarlane = =20 >> > wrote:=20 >> > > >=20 >> > > > Try classoptions?=20 >> > > >=20 >> > > >> On Oct 2, 2022, at 8:01 AM, 'Marek Stepanek' via pandoc-discuss <= =20 >> > pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> wrote:=20 >> > > >>=20 >> > > >>=20 >> > > >> Hello all,=20 >> > > >>=20 >> > > >> little question: how to define landscape in KOMAoptions for the= =20 >> entire=20 >> > document? I tried with:=20 >> > > >>=20 >> > > >> ```=20 >> > > >> ---=20 >> > > >> documentclass: scrartcl=20 >> > > >> fontsize: 12pt=20 >> > > >> pagesize: a4paper=20 >> > > >> lang: en-GB=20 >> > > >> # fontfamily: libertinus=20 >> > > >> KOMAoptions:=20 >> > > >> - landscape=20 >> > > >> ```=20 >> > > >>=20 >> > > >> Not working. Thank you for your help=20 >> > > >>=20 >> > > >>=20 >> > > >> marek=20 >> > > >>=20 >> > > >>=20 >> > > >> --=20 >> > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl= e=20 >> > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group.=20 >> > > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,= =20 >> send=20 >> > an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org=20 >> > > >> To view this discussion on the web visit [1] >> https://groups.google.com/=20 >> > d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/=20 >> > 0AF82EB2-E41A-48AB-A502-065A1BA5D069%40googlemail.com.=20 >> > > >=20 >> > >=20 >> > >=20 >> > > --=20 >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google= =20 >> Groups=20 >> > "pandoc-discuss" group.=20 >> > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,=20 >> send an=20 >> > email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org=20 >> > > To view this discussion on the web visit [2] >> https://groups.google.com/d/=20 >> > msgid/pandoc-discuss/=20 >> > 030d0b12-280e-4c76-ad01-ae63c7f0de18n%40googlegroups.com.=20 >> >=20 >> >=20 >> > --=20 >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google=20 >> Groups=20 >> > "pandoc-discuss" group.=20 >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send= =20 >> an email=20 >> > to [3]pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org=20 >> > To view this discussion on the web visit [4] >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/=20 >> > pandoc-discuss/b095b73c-de48-4806-aa5b-22bc126219aen%40googlegroups.co= m.=20 >> >> >=20 >> > References:=20 >> >=20 >> > [1]=20 >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/0AF82EB2-E41A-48AB-A502= -065A1BA5D069%40googlemail.com=20 >> > [2]=20 >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/030d0b12-280e-4c76-ad01= -ae63c7f0de18n%40googlegroups.com=20 >> > [3] mailto:pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org=20 >> > [4]=20 >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/b095b73c-de48-4806-aa5b= -22bc126219aen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dfooter=20 >> >> > ---=20 >> > documentclass: scrartcl=20 >> > fontsize: 12pt=20 >> > pagesize: a4paper=20 >> > lang: en-GB=20 >> > classoption:=20 >> > - landscape=20 >> > header-includes:=20 >> > - \usepackage{lipsum}=20 >> > include-before:=20 >> > - |=20 >> > ```{=3Dlatex}=20 >> > \begin{center}=20 >> > \hfill \break%=20 >> > \Huge{Minimal Non-Working Example of Landscape}\\[0.5em]=20 >> > \Large{ With Pandoc from Markdown to PDF }\\[1.2em]=20 >> > \Large{ Marek Stepanek }\\[1.2em]=20 >> > \large{Last Edit: Munich \today}\\[1.5em]=20 >> > \end{center}=20 >> > ```=20 >> > - \tableofcontents=20 >> > - \bigskip=20 >> > ---=20 >> >=20 >> > # Foreword=20 >> >=20 >> > This is a Minimal Non-Working example of wrong page-layout with=20 >> `documentclass: scrartcl` in a YAML-Header. I need this layout for large= =20 >> and long tables. Probably this is not a Pandoc-Forum question, more a=20 >> \LaTeX{} one? Sorry about it ... As you may see here: the page-layout is= =20 >> wrong. Is this really `pagesize: a4paper`?=20 >> >=20 >> > At the end I inserted my `Makefile`. Thank you for your help. Also, if= =20 >> it is off-topic here.=20 >> >=20 >> > # New Chapter=20 >> >=20 >> > ```{=3Dlatex}=20 >> > \lipsum[1]=20 >> > ```=20 >> >=20 >> > # Second Chapter=20 >> >=20 >> > ```{=3Dlatex}=20 >> > \lipsum[2]=20 >> > ```=20 >> >=20 >> > # Third Chapter=20 >> >=20 >> > ```{=3Dlatex}=20 >> > \lipsum[3]=20 >> > ```=20 >> >=20 >> > \newpage=20 >> >=20 >> > # Annex=20 >> >=20 >> > I am compiling this page with following `Makefile`:=20 >> >=20 >> > ```{.yaml}=20 >> >=20 >> > all: save typeset open=20 >> >=20 >> > .PHONY: all=20 >> > save:=20 >> > w=20 >> >=20 >> > typeset:=20 >> > pandoc \=20 >> > --from markdown \=20 >> > --to latex \=20 >> > --pdf-engine pdflatex \=20 >> > --out mwd.pdf \=20 >> > mwd.md=20 >> >=20 >> > open:=20 >> > open mwd.pdf=20 >> > ```=20 >> >=20 >> >=20 >> >=20 >> >> --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/= pandoc-discuss/030fddee-45f2-496f-9571-4bb051d4dff9n%40googlegroups.com. ------=_Part_6533_84862891.1664814276399 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah! Now it is working in my original Markdown file, like follows: 
```
documentclass: scrartcl
fontsize: 12pt
= pagesize: a4paper
lang: en-GB
KOMAoption: landscape
```
=
I tried this one before, but could not compile it ... Hope t= his solution will work over the long ... 

Onc= e again thx to all who replied!

On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 6:= 17:00 PM UTC+2 Marek Stepanek wrote:
Merci Bastien,=C2=A0
I found a "buggy"= ; solution:=C2=A0

```
documen= tclass: scrartcl
fontsize: 12pt
pagesize: a4paper
lang: en-GB
<= /div>
header-includes:
- \usepackage{lipsum}
KOMAoption:
- lan= dscape
```

Buggy because putting package lipsum= after KOMAoption=C2=A0

```
header-inclu= des:
KOMAoption:
- landscape
- \usepackage{lipsum}
<= /div>
```

I get an error:=C2=A0

=
```
Error producing PDF.
! Undefined control sequ= ence.
l.132 \lipsum
```

Probably not the ri= ght way to do it. And if I add some other packages I need, it will become p= robably even more buggy ...=C2=A0

Greetings to all=

marek

On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 2:= 45:52 PM UTC+2 Bastien Dumont wrote:
Mmh, scrlayer-scrpage seems more specialized than that. But,= even if you use a KOMA class, you can still set "geometry" in th= e YAML header.

Le Monday 03 October 2022 =C3=A0 01:09:38AM, 'Marek Stepanek' v= ia pandoc-discuss a =C3=A9crit :
> Thx again. Perhaps somebody else could help me out, with the page = layout. I
> made a Minimal (Non) working example:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 10:46:52 PM UTC+2 fiddlosopher wrote= :
>=20
> I can't diagnose Koma layout issues. Maybe someone who is = familiar with
> Koma can give more advice.
>=20
> > On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:35 PM, 'Marek Stepanek' via= pandoc-discuss <
> pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thx fiddlosopher :-) Working. BUT the page layout is wron= g: the body is
> very narrow, as if it is still portrait ... You need a minimal= working
> example?
> >
> > On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 9:30:05 PM UTC+2 fiddlosoph= er wrote:
> > Sorry, should be
> >
> > classoption:
> > - landscape
> >
> > > On Oct 2, 2022, at 12:29 PM, John MacFarlane <fiddlo...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Try classoptions?
> > >
> > >> On Oct 2, 2022, at 8:01 AM, 'Marek Stepanek&= #39; via pandoc-discuss <
> pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hello all,
> > >>
> > >> little question: how to define landscape in KOMA= options for the entire
> document? I tried with:
> > >>
> > >> ```
> > >> ---
> > >> documentclass: scrartcl
> > >> fontsize: 12pt
> > >> pagesize: a4paper
> > >> lang: en-GB
> > >> # fontfamily: libertinus
> > >> KOMAoptions:
> > >> - landscape
> > >> ```
> > >>
> > >> Not working. Thank you for your help
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> marek
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
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> Groups "pandoc-discuss" group.
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> an email to pandoc-discus...@googlegroups.= com.
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> d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/
> 0AF82EB2-E41A-48AB-A502-065A1BA5D069%40= googlemail.com.
> > >
> >
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> 030d0b12-280e-4c76-ad01-ae63c7f0de18n%40googlegroups.com.
>=20
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> pandoc-discuss/b095b73c-de48-4806-aa5b-22bc126219aen%40googlegroups.com.
>=20
> References:
>=20
> [1] https://groups.google.com/d/m= sgid/pandoc-discuss/0AF82EB2-E41A-48AB-A502-065A1BA5D069%40googlemail.com
> [2] https://groups.google.c= om/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/030d0b12-280e-4c76-ad01-ae63c7f0de18n%40googlegro= ups.com
> [3] mailto:pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
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> ---
> documentclass: scrartcl
> fontsize: 12pt
> pagesize: a4paper
> lang: en-GB
> classoption:
> - landscape
> header-includes:
> - \usepackage{lipsum}
> include-before:
> - |
> ```{=3Dlatex}
> \begin{center}
> \hfill \break%
> \Huge{Minimal Non-Working Example of Landscape}\\[0.5em]
> \Large{ With Pandoc from Markdown to PDF }\\[1.2em]
> \Large{ Marek Stepanek }\\[1.2em]
> \large{Last Edit: Munich \today}\\[1.5em]
> \end{center}
> ```
> - \tableofcontents
> - \bigskip
> ---
>=20
> # Foreword
>=20
> This is a Minimal Non-Working example of wrong page-layout with `d= ocumentclass: scrartcl` in a YAML-Header. I need this layout for large and = long tables. Probably this is not a Pandoc-Forum question, more a \LaTeX{} = one? Sorry about it ... As you may see here: the page-layout is wrong. Is t= his really `pagesize: a4paper`?
>=20
> At the end I inserted my `Makefile`. Thank you for your help. Also= , if it is off-topic here.
>=20
> # New Chapter
>=20
> ```{=3Dlatex}
> \lipsum[1]
> ```
>=20
> # Second Chapter
>=20
> ```{=3Dlatex}
> \lipsum[2]
> ```
>=20
> # Third Chapter
>=20
> ```{=3Dlatex}
> \lipsum[3]
> ```
>=20
> \newpage
>=20
> # Annex
>=20
> I am compiling this page with following `Makefile`:
>=20
> ```{.yaml}
>=20
> all: save typeset open
>=20
> .PHONY: all
> save:
> w
>=20
> typeset:
> pandoc \
> --from markdown \
> --to latex \
> --pdf-engine pdflatex \
> --out mwd.pdf \
> mwd.md
>=20
> open:=20
> open mwd.pdf
> ```
>=20
>=20
>=20

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