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From: John MacFarlane <fiddlosopher-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Error caused by document length
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 08:08:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0AFB3E23-B7C1-49E8-9F8A-12716F6A2C40@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bc147d77-69c9-4e5d-82a6-e149f662a823n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>

You could try running epubcheck on the epub produced by pandoc, to see if it points to anything.


> On Feb 27, 2023, at 6:33 AM, 'Peter Vedal Utnes' via pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> I just did some further testing, and replaced the sections that I would otherwise have removed with as many words and paragraphs, but no signs, only "test test test" etc. The document then works. So I was wrong about the length: It must be some character or symbol producing the error (only with pandoc, not other EPUB converters). Any idea how to further isolate it, or how to circumvent with a pandoc command or template?
> 
> Thanks for the help so far, Bernardo.
> 
> 
> 
> mandag 27. februar 2023 kl. 15:23:57 UTC+1 skrev Peter Vedal Utnes:
> I am not sure what you mean by normalize in this context. I'll elaborate in case this is what you mean: In the interest of removing variables that might interfere with troubleshooting, I have copied the text from research papers (not just one, but a few), pasted it in notepad, copied and pasted it back into a new word-file (this is more thorough than "clear formatting"), ran this "pure" file through pandoc and I get the error. If I then randomly shorten the file, the error disappears. This is not the case for my "test" file, but only for research papers, which is baffling. I can only assume that pandoc responds to something like a character or in-text references in particular contexts, or as was my original hypothesis, the number of lines or columns in the EPUB. 
> 
> mandag 27. februar 2023 kl. 15:17:10 UTC+1 skrev bernardov...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org:
> Have you tried editing the original research paper in some minor way (adding or removing a couple of characters) and then running it? This is a completely wild guess, but maybe the text in the file is getting normalized upon editing them, whereas the original research paper still contains the unedited, unnormalized text.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 10:48 AM 'Peter Vedal Utnes' via pandoc-discuss <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> I thank you for the suggestion. It is proving somewhat hard to (dis)confirm. I have made a testfile with just the word "test" pasted over and over again, with and without various formatting and with the same length or longer as the proper papers. This file consistently works. But when I attempt to do it with a regular research paper, it only works if I shorten it. Curiously, I can remove either half of the main text, or indeed sections here and there, randomly, and it works, but not with all of them present. I have combed it for special characters or tags, but cannot find any. 
> 
> mandag 27. februar 2023 kl. 13:49:58 UTC+1 skrev Bernardo C. D. A. Vasconcelos:
> I do not know the answer to this problem in particular, but perhaps it is worth checking the main document and the bibliography for invisible control characters (e.g. `\X{A0}`). They tend to cause all sorts of strange problems that result in random error msgs.
> 
> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 8:16:20 AM UTC-3 Peter Vedal Utnes wrote:
> We have a workflow in Open Journal Systems where we use Pandoc to convert word documents to EPUB, and then display them with an embedded EPUB app (Bibi). 
> 
> Our resulting EPUBs work fine with both debuggers and viewers like calibre. They work in Bibi, but only when they are reduced to a certain length. Whenever the files exceed approx 100 lines or 600 words, Bibi claims:
> 
> TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading ‘getAttribute’)
> 
> Meanwhile, the same documents works when converted to EPUB using other converters, or when I reduce the length (length, not size in bytes-- I've tried with graphics, still works). It suddenly works when I reduce the length by removing pure paragraph text, even though all the formatted elements (abstract, references, etc) are the same. 
> 
> I recognize that this problem is very specific to the interrelation pandoc <-> Bibi, but I'd be grateful for general troubleshooting suggestions. 
> 
> Thanks in advance, 
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-27 16:08 UTC|newest]

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2023-02-27 11:16 'Peter Vedal Utnes' via pandoc-discuss
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2023-02-27 12:49   ` Bernardo C. D. A. Vasconcelos
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2023-02-27 13:48       ` 'Peter Vedal Utnes' via pandoc-discuss
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2023-02-27 14:16           ` bernardovasconcelos-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w
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2023-02-27 14:23               ` 'Peter Vedal Utnes' via pandoc-discuss
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2023-02-27 14:33                   ` 'Peter Vedal Utnes' via pandoc-discuss
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2023-02-27 14:54                       ` Bastien DUMONT
2023-02-27 15:45                         ` Bernardo C. D. A. Vasconcelos
2023-02-27 16:08                       ` John MacFarlane [this message]
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2023-02-27 16:22                           ` 'Peter Vedal Utnes' via pandoc-discuss
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2023-02-27 16:39                               ` Bastien DUMONT
2023-02-27 16:49                                 ` 'Peter Vedal Utnes' via pandoc-discuss
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2023-02-27 17:10                                     ` 'William Lupton' via pandoc-discuss
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2023-02-28 15:03                                         ` 'Peter Vedal Utnes' via pandoc-discuss

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