* Plain text input
@ 2015-11-17 10:12 Neil Youngman
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From: Neil Youngman @ 2015-11-17 10:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I'm trying to find something that will convert CJK plain text to a
graphical format. So far the only likely candidate I have found is Pandoc
with GNU unifont to convert to PDF and the ghostscript to produce TIFF.
Pandoc does not appear to have a plain text input format, so if I go down
this route, I may have to preprocess the text and escape any markdown
characters. Is there an option I've missed to turn off markdown completely,
a pre existing script to preprocess the text or some other more suitable
program that I should be considering?
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From: lukshuntim-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w @ 2015-11-17 13:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 11/17/2015 06:12 PM, Neil Youngman wrote:
> I'm trying to find something that will convert CJK plain text to a
> graphical format. So far the only likely candidate I have found is
> Pandoc with GNU unifont to convert to PDF and the ghostscript to produce
> TIFF.
>
> Pandoc does not appear to have a plain text input format, so if I go
> down this route, I may have to preprocess the text and escape any
> markdown characters. Is there an option I've missed to turn off markdown
> completely, a pre existing script to preprocess the text or some other
> more suitable program that I should be considering?
Hi Neil,
There's should be no problem for pandoc if your CJK text is in utf-8.
Regards,
ST
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From: Neil Youngman @ 2015-11-17 14:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:45:09 UTC, lukshuntim wrote:
>
> On 11/17/2015 06:12 PM, Neil Youngman wrote:
> > I'm trying to find something that will convert CJK plain text to a
> > graphical format. So far the only likely candidate I have found is
> > Pandoc with GNU unifont to convert to PDF and the ghostscript to produce
> > TIFF.
> >
> > Pandoc does not appear to have a plain text input format, so if I go
> > down this route, I may have to preprocess the text and escape any
> > markdown characters. Is there an option I've missed to turn off markdown
> > completely, a pre existing script to preprocess the text or some other
> > more suitable program that I should be considering?
>
> Hi Neil,
>
> There's should be no problem for pandoc if your CJK text is in utf-8.
>
> Regards,
> ST
> --
>
> The problem is making sure that it doesn't interpret any punctuation as
markdown. Verbatim might be useful, but if I put backticks around Japanese
characters they disappear from the output.
An option to turn off markdown completely would be great, but as a
non-Haskell programmer I can't just dive into the source.
I am currently thinking I will wrap backticks around all characters in the
ASCII range except backticks.
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From: John MacFarlane @ 2015-11-17 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
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If you just want the text as one big string, you can try
running this Haskell program:
-- plain.hs
import Text.Pandoc.Definition
main = do
inp <- getContents
print $ Pandoc nullMeta [Para [Str inp]]
Run as: runghc plain.hs < inputfile.txt | pandoc -f native -o my.pdf
But you probably want to retain some structural formatting,
e.g. paragraphs?
+++ Neil Youngman [Nov 17 15 06:15 ]:
> On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 13:45:09 UTC, lukshuntim wrote:
>
> On 11/17/2015 06:12 PM, Neil Youngman wrote:
> > I'm trying to find something that will convert CJK plain text to a
> > graphical format. So far the only likely candidate I have found is
> > Pandoc with GNU unifont to convert to PDF and the ghostscript to
> produce
> > TIFF.
> >
> > Pandoc does not appear to have a plain text input format, so if I
> go
> > down this route, I may have to preprocess the text and escape any
> > markdown characters. Is there an option I've missed to turn off
> markdown
> > completely, a pre existing script to preprocess the text or some
> other
> > more suitable program that I should be considering?
> Hi Neil,
> There's should be no problem for pandoc if your CJK text is in
> utf-8.
> Regards,
> ST
> --
>
> The problem is making sure that it doesn't interpret any punctuation as
> markdown. Verbatim might be useful, but if I put backticks around
> Japanese characters they disappear from the output.
> An option to turn off markdown completely would be great, but as a
> non-Haskell programmer I can't just dive into the source.
> I am currently thinking I will wrap backticks around all characters in
> the ASCII range except backticks.
>
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From: Neil Youngman @ 2015-11-17 22:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> But you probably want to retain some structural formatting,
> e.g. paragraphs?
>
> I want it as close as possible to what I'd get running cat in an xterm, so
I want line breaks retained, but long lines should be wrapped. I don;t want
adjacent lines to be treated as a paragraph and run together.
I'll have a play tomorrow and see if I can get that Haskell to work.
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From: John MACFARLANE @ 2015-11-17 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Just put the whole thing in a code block, then, and set your
desired font as `monofont`.
To do this, create a file 'border' containing just a line
with 3 backticks
```
Then, assuming input.txt contains your Chinese text,
pandoc -o output.pdf border input.txt border
+++ Neil Youngman [Nov 17 15 14:17 ]:
> But you probably want to retain some structural formatting,
> e.g. paragraphs?
>
> I want it as close as possible to what I'd get running cat in an xterm,
> so I want line breaks retained, but long lines should be wrapped. I
> don;t want adjacent lines to be treated as a paragraph and run
> together.
> I'll have a play tomorrow and see if I can get that Haskell to work.
>
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From: Daniel Staal @ 2015-11-17 22:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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--As of November 17, 2015 2:12:05 AM -0800, Neil Youngman is alleged to
have said:
> I'm trying to find something that will convert CJK plain text to a
> graphical format. So far the only likely candidate I have found is Pandoc
> with GNU unifont to convert to PDF and the ghostscript to produce TIFF.
>
> Pandoc does not appear to have a plain text input format, so if I go down
> this route, I may have to preprocess the text and escape any markdown
> characters. Is there an option I've missed to turn off markdown
> completely, a pre existing script to preprocess the text or some other
> more suitable program that I should be considering?
--As for the rest, it is mine.
Another thought would be to tell pandoc that it's in some other (more
intrusive) markup format - one that doesn't overlap with what is in your
documents, but is still plain-text enough to let through your content
without causing issues. MediaWiki would look like a good bet - it's markup
is a bit more oddball and less likely to be something that would cause
issues.
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From: Neil Youngman @ 2015-11-18 10:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:17:03 UTC, John MacFarlane wrote:
>
> If you just want the text as one big string, you can try
> running this Haskell program:
>
> -- plain.hs
> import Text.Pandoc.Definition
>
> main = do
> inp <- getContents
> print $ Pandoc nullMeta [Para [Str inp]]
>
>
> Run as: runghc plain.hs < inputfile.txt | pandoc -f native -o my.pdf
>
>
Pandoc doesn't like the output. It complains about undefined control
characters \r, \n and \3 (start of escaped Japanese character).
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From: Neil Youngman @ 2015-11-18 10:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 22:30:09 UTC, John MacFarlane wrote:
>
> Just put the whole thing in a code block, then, and set your
> desired font as `monofont`.
>
> To do this, create a file 'border' containing just a line
> with 3 backticks
>
> ```
>
> Then, assuming input.txt contains your Chinese text,
>
> pandoc -o output.pdf border input.txt border
>
>
The code blocks don't wrap the long lines. Other than that the results are
pretty good.
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From: John MacFarlane @ 2015-11-18 16:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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+++ Neil Youngman [Nov 18 15 02:32 ]:
> On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:17:03 UTC, John MacFarlane wrote:
>
> If you just want the text as one big string, you can try
> running this Haskell program:
> -- plain.hs
> import Text.Pandoc.Definition
> main = do
> inp <- getContents
> print $ Pandoc nullMeta [Para [Str inp]]
> Run as: runghc plain.hs < inputfile.txt | pandoc -f native -o
> my.pdf
>
> Pandoc doesn't like the output. It complains about undefined control
> characters \r, \n and \3 (start of escaped Japanese character).
Try the code block approach I outlined in my later message.
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From: Neil Youngman @ 2015-11-18 17:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wednesday, 18 November 2015 16:53:23 UTC, John MacFarlane wrote:
>
>
>
> Try the code block approach I outlined in my later message.
>
>
As I said earlier, that doesn't wrap long lines. I guess I could sort that
with some preprocessing.
Thanks
Neil
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+++ Neil Youngman [Nov 18 15 02:32 ]:
> On Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:17:03 UTC, John MacFarlane wrote:
>
> If you just want the text as one big string, you can try
> running this Haskell program:
> -- plain.hs
> import Text.Pandoc.Definition
> main = do
> inp <- getContents
> print $ Pandoc nullMeta [Para [Str inp]]
> Run as: runghc plain.hs < inputfile.txt | pandoc -f native -o
> my.pdf
>
> Pandoc doesn't like the output. It complains about undefined control
> characters \r, \n and \3 (start of escaped Japanese character).
I don't know about the `\3` (is your text UTF8?)
As for the rest, we can try something like:
-- plain.hs
import Text.Pandoc.Definition
import Text.Pandoc.Builder
import qualified Data.Text as T
import qualified Data.Text.IO as TIO
import Data.Monoid
main = do
inp <- TIO.getContents
-- break into paragraphs
let pars = T.splitOn (T.pack "\n\n") $ T.filter (/= '\r') inp
print $ doc $ mconcat $ map (\par -> para (text (T.unpack par))) pars
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From: Neil Youngman @ 2015-11-19 11:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Thanks for all the input. Someone has now suggested GrahicsMagick Convert,
which works for my simple test case, provided I specify a suitable font.
Gm convert doesn't wrap, but the fold utility will handle that for me.
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