* Conversion of underbrace (to and from Word) @ 2017-10-03 9:36 Emma Cliffe [not found] ` <f240aa27-3e64-430c-82b0-55e095a5b175-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Emma Cliffe @ 2017-10-03 9:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1781 bytes --] Morning, I am having trouble getting pandoc to convert underbrace either into Word or out of Word. I wondered if there is either something I am doing wrong, whether this is a known problem (I can't find a report) or if there is a work round for converting into Word. If I try to convert: \[ \underbrace{xxx\ldots xx}_n \] for instance then what I get in Word (linear format) is: ((xxx…xx)┬⏟)┬n which does not render as a stretched underbrace. I would expect to get: ⏟(xxx…xx)┬n which is typed directly into Word as \underbrace(xxx\ldots xx)_n (then space to trigger). You get the same linear interpretation if you use the mouse to create the structure. The above is the direction I am interested in. I am actually converting from MathML and see the same behaviour as in the cut down test of md or tex to docx I have explained above. For completeness I tried to convert in the other direction. Starting from the above structure in Word I end up with: \[\underset{n}{}\] which has not only lost the xxx...xx but underbrace has become underset which is not the same thing. Does anyone know anything more about this? Many thanks, Emma -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/f240aa27-3e64-430c-82b0-55e095a5b175%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 5865 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* Re: Conversion of underbrace (to and from Word) [not found] ` <f240aa27-3e64-430c-82b0-55e095a5b175-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> @ 2017-10-03 9:43 ` Emma Cliffe 2017-10-03 10:14 ` Emma Cliffe 2017-10-03 20:52 ` John MACFARLANE 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Emma Cliffe @ 2017-10-03 9:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1980 bytes --] Sorry, should have said, this is with pandoc 1.19.2.1. Emma On Tuesday, 3 October 2017 10:36:44 UTC+1, Emma Cliffe wrote: > > > Morning, > > I am having trouble getting pandoc to convert underbrace either into Word > or out of Word. I wondered if there is either something I am doing wrong, > whether this is a known problem (I can't find a report) or if there is a > work round for converting into Word. > > If I try to convert: > \[ > \underbrace{xxx\ldots xx}_n > \] > for instance then what I get in Word (linear format) is: > ((xxx…xx)┬⏟)┬n > which does not render as a stretched underbrace. > > I would expect to get: > ⏟(xxx…xx)┬n > which is typed directly into Word as \underbrace(xxx\ldots xx)_n (then > space to trigger). You get the same linear interpretation if you use the > mouse to create the structure. > > The above is the direction I am interested in. I am actually converting > from MathML and see the same behaviour as in the cut down test of md or tex > to docx I have explained above. > > For completeness I tried to convert in the other direction. Starting from > the above structure in Word I end up with: > \[\underset{n}{}\] > which has not only lost the xxx...xx but underbrace has become underset > which is not the same thing. > > Does anyone know anything more about this? > > Many thanks, > Emma > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/a72df1c2-3855-4d16-a972-9ce3ab5bfa6c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2514 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Conversion of underbrace (to and from Word) [not found] ` <f240aa27-3e64-430c-82b0-55e095a5b175-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 2017-10-03 9:43 ` Emma Cliffe @ 2017-10-03 10:14 ` Emma Cliffe 2017-10-03 20:52 ` John MACFARLANE 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Emma Cliffe @ 2017-10-03 10:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2725 bytes --] And, in case it is useful, the MathML: <math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" display="block"> <mrow> <munder class="msub"> <mrow> <munder accentunder="false"> <mrow> <mi>x</mi> <mi>x</mi> <mi>x</mi> <mo class="MathClass-op">…</mo> <mi>x</mi> <mi>x</mi> </mrow> <mo>︸</mo> </munder> </mrow> <mrow> <mi>n</mi> </mrow> </munder> </mrow> </math> This is rendered correctly by MathJax and by Firefox native rendering. If I transform that using pandoc to LaTeX, for instance, I get: \[\underset{n}{\underset{\}\ }{xxx\ldots xx}}\] This renders in the same unexpected manner as the Word rendering when going the other way. Thanks, Emma On Tuesday, 3 October 2017 10:36:44 UTC+1, Emma Cliffe wrote: > > > Morning, > > I am having trouble getting pandoc to convert underbrace either into Word > or out of Word. I wondered if there is either something I am doing wrong, > whether this is a known problem (I can't find a report) or if there is a > work round for converting into Word. > > If I try to convert: > \[ > \underbrace{xxx\ldots xx}_n > \] > for instance then what I get in Word (linear format) is: > ((xxx…xx)┬⏟)┬n > which does not render as a stretched underbrace. > > I would expect to get: > ⏟(xxx…xx)┬n > which is typed directly into Word as \underbrace(xxx\ldots xx)_n (then > space to trigger). You get the same linear interpretation if you use the > mouse to create the structure. > > The above is the direction I am interested in. I am actually converting > from MathML and see the same behaviour as in the cut down test of md or tex > to docx I have explained above. > > For completeness I tried to convert in the other direction. Starting from > the above structure in Word I end up with: > \[\underset{n}{}\] > which has not only lost the xxx...xx but underbrace has become underset > which is not the same thing. > > Does anyone know anything more about this? > > Many thanks, > Emma > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/3d9489bc-eb47-465f-8096-56fe82dde46e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3633 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Conversion of underbrace (to and from Word) [not found] ` <f240aa27-3e64-430c-82b0-55e095a5b175-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 2017-10-03 9:43 ` Emma Cliffe 2017-10-03 10:14 ` Emma Cliffe @ 2017-10-03 20:52 ` John MACFARLANE 2018-01-22 18:08 ` Emma Cliffe 2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: John MACFARLANE @ 2017-10-03 20:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw This bug got fixed in texmath in February 2016. If you compile your pandoc against the most recent version of texmath, it should work. Anyway, this will be fixed in the pandoc 2.0 binary packages. Or you can try (at your own risk) a binary from pandoc-nightlies. +++ Emma Cliffe [Oct 03 17 02:36 ]: > Morning, > I am having trouble getting pandoc to convert underbrace either into > Word or out of Word. I wondered if there is either something I am doing > wrong, whether this is a known problem (I can't find a report) or if > there is a work round for converting into Word. > If I try to convert: > \[ > \underbrace{xxx\ldots xx}_n > \] > for instance then what I get in Word (linear format) is: > ((xxx…xx)┬⏟)┬n > which does not render as a stretched underbrace. > I would expect to get: > ⏟(xxx…xx)┬n > which is typed directly into Word as \underbrace(xxx\ldots xx)_n (then > space to trigger). You get the same linear interpretation if you use > the mouse to create the structure. > The above is the direction I am interested in. I am actually converting > from MathML and see the same behaviour as in the cut down test of md or > tex to docx I have explained above. > For completeness I tried to convert in the other direction. Starting > from the above structure in Word I end up with: > \[\underset{n}{}\] > which has not only lost the xxx...xx but underbrace has become underset > which is not the same thing. > Does anyone know anything more about this? > Many thanks, > Emma > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [1]pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To post to this group, send email to > [2]pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit > [3]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/f240aa27-3e64-430c- > 82b0-55e095a5b175%40googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit [4]https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >References > > 1. mailto:pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > 2. mailto:pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > 3. https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/f240aa27-3e64-430c-82b0-55e095a5b175-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer > 4. https://groups.google.com/d/optout -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/20171003205227.GA14633%40protagoras. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Conversion of underbrace (to and from Word) 2017-10-03 20:52 ` John MACFARLANE @ 2018-01-22 18:08 ` Emma Cliffe [not found] ` <150196ab-c7ac-428b-b989-583e8e91db64-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Emma Cliffe @ 2018-01-22 18:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4197 bytes --] Dear John, Thanks for the information below. For some reason I didn't see your response when you posted it. I have just now tried the latest version of pandoc from the downloads page (pandoc 2.1.1 Compiled with pandoc-types 1.17.3, texmath 0.10.1, skylighting 0.6) and I am getting the same problem. The output in linear format of Word is ((xxx…xx)┬(} ))┬n which does not render correctly. This seems to be about the same as what I was getting before: ((xxx…xx)┬⏟)┬n and not what I would expect to get: ⏟(xxx…xx)┬n From what I can tell the binary is using a version of texmath that contains the below mentioned fix? Thanks for any help you can give us. Emma On Tuesday, 3 October 2017 21:52:27 UTC+1, John MacFarlane wrote: > > This bug got fixed in texmath in February 2016. > > If you compile your pandoc against the most recent version > of texmath, it should work. > > Anyway, this will be fixed in the pandoc 2.0 binary > packages. Or you can try (at your own risk) a binary > from pandoc-nightlies. > > > +++ Emma Cliffe [Oct 03 17 02:36 ]: > > Morning, > > I am having trouble getting pandoc to convert underbrace either into > > Word or out of Word. I wondered if there is either something I am > doing > > wrong, whether this is a known problem (I can't find a report) or if > > there is a work round for converting into Word. > > If I try to convert: > > \[ > > \underbrace{xxx\ldots xx}_n > > \] > > for instance then what I get in Word (linear format) is: > > ((xxx…xx)┬⏟)┬n > > which does not render as a stretched underbrace. > > I would expect to get: > > ⏟(xxx…xx)┬n > > which is typed directly into Word as \underbrace(xxx\ldots xx)_n (then > > space to trigger). You get the same linear interpretation if you use > > the mouse to create the structure. > > The above is the direction I am interested in. I am actually > converting > > from MathML and see the same behaviour as in the cut down test of md > or > > tex to docx I have explained above. > > For completeness I tried to convert in the other direction. Starting > > from the above structure in Word I end up with: > > \[\underset{n}{}\] > > which has not only lost the xxx...xx but underbrace has become > underset > > which is not the same thing. > > Does anyone know anything more about this? > > Many thanks, > > Emma > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > > an email to [1]pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <javascript:>. > > To post to this group, send email to > > [2]pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <javascript:>. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > [3] > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/f240aa27-3e64-430c- > > 82b0-55e095a5b175%40googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit [4]https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > >References > > > > 1. mailto:pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <javascript:> > > 2. mailto:pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <javascript:> > > 3. > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/f240aa27-3e64-430c-82b0-55e095a5b175-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer > > 4. https://groups.google.com/d/optout > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/150196ab-c7ac-428b-b989-583e8e91db64%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 7596 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* Re: Conversion of underbrace (to and from Word) [not found] ` <150196ab-c7ac-428b-b989-583e8e91db64-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> @ 2018-01-22 19:27 ` John MACFARLANE 2018-01-23 10:27 ` Emma Cliffe 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: John MACFARLANE @ 2018-01-22 19:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 6315 bytes --] Here's what I get when I convert $$ \underbrace{xxx\ldots xx}_n $$ from markdown to docx (see attached screenshot). That looks just right to me. I wasn't sure how to interpret your "linear format" strings, so I'm not sure what you're seeing. You can attach a screenshot. Your pandoc is compiled against a recent version of texmath (0.10.1). +++ Emma Cliffe [Jan 22 18 10:08 ]: > Dear John, > Thanks for the information below. For some reason I didn't see your > response when you posted it. I have just now tried the latest version > of pandoc from the downloads page (pandoc 2.1.1 Compiled with > pandoc-types 1.17.3, texmath 0.10.1, skylighting 0.6) and I am getting > the same problem. The output in linear format of Word is ((xxx…xx)┬(} > ))┬n which does not render correctly. This seems to be about the same > as what I was getting before: ((xxx…xx)┬⏟)┬n and not what I would > expect to get: ⏟(xxx…xx)┬n > From what I can tell the binary is using a version of texmath that > contains the below mentioned fix? > Thanks for any help you can give us. > Emma > On Tuesday, 3 October 2017 21:52:27 UTC+1, John MacFarlane wrote: > > This bug got fixed in texmath in February 2016. > If you compile your pandoc against the most recent version > of texmath, it should work. > Anyway, this will be fixed in the pandoc 2.0 binary > packages. Or you can try (at your own risk) a binary > from pandoc-nightlies. > +++ Emma Cliffe [Oct 03 17 02:36 ]: > > Morning, > > I am having trouble getting pandoc to convert underbrace either > into > > Word or out of Word. I wondered if there is either something I > am doing > > wrong, whether this is a known problem (I can't find a report) > or if > > there is a work round for converting into Word. > > If I try to convert: > > \[ > > \underbrace{xxx\ldots xx}_n > > \] > > for instance then what I get in Word (linear format) is: > > ((xxx…xx)┬⏟)┬n > > which does not render as a stretched underbrace. > > I would expect to get: > > ⏟(xxx…xx)┬n > > which is typed directly into Word as \underbrace(xxx\ldots xx)_n > (then > > space to trigger). You get the same linear interpretation if you > use > > the mouse to create the structure. > > The above is the direction I am interested in. I am actually > converting > > from MathML and see the same behaviour as in the cut down test > of md or > > tex to docx I have explained above. > > For completeness I tried to convert in the other direction. > Starting > > from the above structure in Word I end up with: > > \[\underset{n}{}\] > > which has not only lost the xxx...xx but underbrace has become > underset > > which is not the same thing. > > Does anyone know anything more about this? > > Many thanks, > > Emma > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google > > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > it, send > > an email to [1][1]pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To post to this group, send email to > > [2][2]pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > [3][3]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ > f240aa27-3e64-430c- > > 82b0-55e095a5b175%[4]40googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit [4][5]https://groups.google.com/ > d/optout. > > > >References > > > > 1. mailto:[6]pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > 2. mailto:[7]pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > 3. 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* Re: Conversion of underbrace (to and from Word) 2018-01-22 19:27 ` John MACFARLANE @ 2018-01-23 10:27 ` Emma Cliffe [not found] ` <d253238b-b377-41c7-a0bf-44cfc2a447fc-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Emma Cliffe @ 2018-01-23 10:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 8197 bytes --] Dear John, Sorry, I should have tested more extensively. You are correct, this does fix the LaTeX to Word conversion. However, we are actually converting MathML to Word. When I originally reported it I got the same incorrect result on conversion from LaTeX to Word and on conversion from MathML to Word so I reported both at once as I assumed, obviously incorrectly that the two issues had the same cause. I have now checked everything and the situation is: LaTeX to Word is now producing the correct output MathML to Word is still producing incorrect output The MathML is: <math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" display="block"> <mrow> <munder> <mrow> <munder> <mrow> <mi>x</mi> <mi>x</mi> <mi>x</mi> <mo>…</mo> <mi>x</mi> <mi>x</mi> </mrow> <mo>︸</mo> </munder> </mrow> <mrow> <mi>n</mi> </mrow> </munder> </mrow> </math> The above renders correctly in Firefox (native rendering) and using MathJax. I am pretty sure that this is the right MathML? I attach a screenshot of what I get when I render the above and the output of the transform to Word. I'll keep trying to work out what is actually happening. Many thanks for any insights, Emma On Monday, 22 January 2018 19:27:38 UTC, John MacFarlane wrote: > > Here's what I get when I convert > > $$ > \underbrace{xxx\ldots xx}_n > $$ > > from markdown to docx (see attached screenshot). > > That looks just right to me. I wasn't sure how to > interpret your "linear format" strings, so I'm not > sure what you're seeing. You can attach a screenshot. > > Your pandoc is compiled against a recent version > of texmath (0.10.1). > > > +++ Emma Cliffe [Jan 22 18 10:08 ]: > > Dear John, > > Thanks for the information below. For some reason I didn't see your > > response when you posted it. I have just now tried the latest version > > of pandoc from the downloads page (pandoc 2.1.1 Compiled with > > pandoc-types 1.17.3, texmath 0.10.1, skylighting 0.6) and I am getting > > the same problem. The output in linear format of Word is ((xxx…xx)┬(} > > ))┬n which does not render correctly. This seems to be about the same > > as what I was getting before: ((xxx…xx)┬⏟)┬n and not what I would > > expect to get: ⏟(xxx…xx)┬n > > From what I can tell the binary is using a version of texmath that > > contains the below mentioned fix? > > Thanks for any help you can give us. > > Emma > > On Tuesday, 3 October 2017 21:52:27 UTC+1, John MacFarlane wrote: > > > > This bug got fixed in texmath in February 2016. > > If you compile your pandoc against the most recent version > > of texmath, it should work. > > Anyway, this will be fixed in the pandoc 2.0 binary > > packages. Or you can try (at your own risk) a binary > > from pandoc-nightlies. > > +++ Emma Cliffe [Oct 03 17 02:36 ]: > > > Morning, > > > I am having trouble getting pandoc to convert underbrace either > > into > > > Word or out of Word. I wondered if there is either something I > > am doing > > > wrong, whether this is a known problem (I can't find a report) > > or if > > > there is a work round for converting into Word. > > > If I try to convert: > > > \[ > > > \underbrace{xxx\ldots xx}_n > > > \] > > > for instance then what I get in Word (linear format) is: > > > ((xxx…xx)┬⏟)┬n > > > which does not render as a stretched underbrace. > > > I would expect to get: > > > ⏟(xxx…xx)┬n > > > which is typed directly into Word as \underbrace(xxx\ldots xx)_n > > (then > > > space to trigger). You get the same linear interpretation if you > > use > > > the mouse to create the structure. > > > The above is the direction I am interested in. I am actually > > converting > > > from MathML and see the same behaviour as in the cut down test > > of md or > > > tex to docx I have explained above. > > > For completeness I tried to convert in the other direction. > > Starting > > > from the above structure in Word I end up with: > > > \[\underset{n}{}\] > > > which has not only lost the xxx...xx but underbrace has become > > underset > > > which is not the same thing. > > > Does anyone know anything more about this? > > > Many thanks, > > > Emma > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > Google > > > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > > it, send > > > an email to [1][1]pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > [2][2]pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > [3][3]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ > > f240aa27-3e64-430c- > > > 82b0-55e095a5b175%[4]40googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit [4][5]https://groups.google.com/ > > d/optout. > > > > > >References > > > > > > 1. mailto:[6]pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > <javascript:> > > > 2. mailto:[7]pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > > 3. 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* Re: Conversion of underbrace (to and from Word) [not found] ` <d253238b-b377-41c7-a0bf-44cfc2a447fc-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> @ 2018-01-23 11:06 ` Emma Cliffe [not found] ` <0a27b5b4-cdcd-4446-a5f1-31fbdfe3b2dc-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Emma Cliffe @ 2018-01-23 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 9038 bytes --] Dear John, Okay, I think that I have solved the issue. The clue was in https://hackage.haskell.org/package/texmath-0.8.6.5/changelog where it states "Fixed overbrace, underbrace (#82). Previously we were using the wrong character: U+FE37 instead of U+23DE. This didn't work in Word." If I switch the unicode character in the input mathML then the conversion does then work correctly in a simple test. The mathML does still render correctly so I guess I need to switch unicode under and over braces. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for your time. Emma On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 10:27:53 UTC, Emma Cliffe wrote: > > Dear John, > > Sorry, I should have tested more extensively. You are correct, this does > fix the LaTeX to Word conversion. However, we are actually converting > MathML to Word. When I originally reported it I got the same incorrect > result on conversion from LaTeX to Word and on conversion from MathML to > Word so I reported both at once as I assumed, obviously incorrectly that > the two issues had the same cause. I have now checked everything and the > situation is: > > LaTeX to Word is now producing the correct output > MathML to Word is still producing incorrect output > > The MathML is: > > <math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" display="block"> > <mrow> > <munder> > <mrow> > <munder> > <mrow> > <mi>x</mi> > <mi>x</mi> > <mi>x</mi> > <mo>…</mo> > <mi>x</mi> > <mi>x</mi> > </mrow> > <mo>︸</mo> > </munder> > </mrow> > <mrow> > <mi>n</mi> > </mrow> > </munder> > </mrow> > </math> > > The above renders correctly in Firefox (native rendering) and using > MathJax. I am pretty sure that this is the right MathML? > > I attach a screenshot of what I get when I render the above and the output > of the transform to Word. I'll keep trying to work out what is actually > happening. > > Many thanks for any insights, > Emma > > On Monday, 22 January 2018 19:27:38 UTC, John MacFarlane wrote: >> >> Here's what I get when I convert >> >> $$ >> \underbrace{xxx\ldots xx}_n >> $$ >> >> from markdown to docx (see attached screenshot). >> >> That looks just right to me. I wasn't sure how to >> interpret your "linear format" strings, so I'm not >> sure what you're seeing. You can attach a screenshot. >> >> Your pandoc is compiled against a recent version >> of texmath (0.10.1). >> >> >> +++ Emma Cliffe [Jan 22 18 10:08 ]: >> > Dear John, >> > Thanks for the information below. For some reason I didn't see your >> > response when you posted it. I have just now tried the latest version >> > of pandoc from the downloads page (pandoc 2.1.1 Compiled with >> > pandoc-types 1.17.3, texmath 0.10.1, skylighting 0.6) and I am >> getting >> > the same problem. The output in linear format of Word is ((xxx…xx)┬(} >> > ))┬n which does not render correctly. This seems to be about the same >> > as what I was getting before: ((xxx…xx)┬⏟)┬n and not what I would >> > expect to get: ⏟(xxx…xx)┬n >> > From what I can tell the binary is using a version of texmath that >> > contains the below mentioned fix? >> > Thanks for any help you can give us. >> > Emma >> > On Tuesday, 3 October 2017 21:52:27 UTC+1, John MacFarlane wrote: >> > >> > This bug got fixed in texmath in February 2016. >> > If you compile your pandoc against the most recent version >> > of texmath, it should work. >> > Anyway, this will be fixed in the pandoc 2.0 binary >> > packages. Or you can try (at your own risk) a binary >> > from pandoc-nightlies. >> > +++ Emma Cliffe [Oct 03 17 02:36 ]: >> > > Morning, >> > > I am having trouble getting pandoc to convert underbrace either >> > into >> > > Word or out of Word. I wondered if there is either something I >> > am doing >> > > wrong, whether this is a known problem (I can't find a report) >> > or if >> > > there is a work round for converting into Word. >> > > If I try to convert: >> > > \[ >> > > \underbrace{xxx\ldots xx}_n >> > > \] >> > > for instance then what I get in Word (linear format) is: >> > > ((xxx…xx)┬⏟)┬n >> > > which does not render as a stretched underbrace. >> > > I would expect to get: >> > > ⏟(xxx…xx)┬n >> > > which is typed directly into Word as \underbrace(xxx\ldots >> xx)_n >> > (then >> > > space to trigger). You get the same linear interpretation if >> you >> > use >> > > the mouse to create the structure. >> > > The above is the direction I am interested in. I am actually >> > converting >> > > from MathML and see the same behaviour as in the cut down test >> > of md or >> > > tex to docx I have explained above. >> > > For completeness I tried to convert in the other direction. >> > Starting >> > > from the above structure in Word I end up with: >> > > \[\underset{n}{}\] >> > > which has not only lost the xxx...xx but underbrace has become >> > underset >> > > which is not the same thing. >> > > Does anyone know anything more about this? >> > > Many thanks, >> > > Emma >> > > >> > > -- >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> > Google >> > > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. >> > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >> > it, send >> > > an email to [1][1]pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> > > To post to this group, send email to >> > > [2][2]pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> > > To view this discussion on the web visit >> > > [3][3]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ >> > f240aa27-3e64-430c- >> > > 82b0-55e095a5b175%[4]40googlegroups.com. >> > > For more options, visit [4][5]https://groups.google.com/ >> > d/optout. >> > > >> > >References >> > > >> > > 1. mailto:[6]pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org >> > > 2. mailto:[7]pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org >> > > 3. 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* Re: Conversion of underbrace (to and from Word) [not found] ` <0a27b5b4-cdcd-4446-a5f1-31fbdfe3b2dc-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> @ 2018-01-23 13:55 ` Emma Cliffe [not found] ` <333b70c6-30a1-4167-8135-f6fe87429621-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Emma Cliffe @ 2018-01-23 13:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 9600 bytes --] Dear John, Just final confirmation after retesting: to get the transform to work from mathML to Word I needed both pandoc 2.1.1 (so presumably the fix you referred to) *and* the correct unicode symbol in the mathML. Thanks again, Emma On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 11:06:04 UTC, Emma Cliffe wrote: > > > Dear John, > > Okay, I think that I have solved the issue. The clue was in > https://hackage.haskell.org/package/texmath-0.8.6.5/changelog where it > states "Fixed overbrace, underbrace (#82). Previously we were using the > wrong character: U+FE37 instead of U+23DE. This didn't work in Word." If I > switch the unicode character in the input mathML then the conversion does > then work correctly in a simple test. > > The mathML does still render correctly so I guess I need to switch unicode > under and over braces. > > Sorry for the confusion and thanks for your time. > Emma > > > On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 10:27:53 UTC, Emma Cliffe wrote: >> >> Dear John, >> >> Sorry, I should have tested more extensively. You are correct, this does >> fix the LaTeX to Word conversion. However, we are actually converting >> MathML to Word. When I originally reported it I got the same incorrect >> result on conversion from LaTeX to Word and on conversion from MathML to >> Word so I reported both at once as I assumed, obviously incorrectly that >> the two issues had the same cause. I have now checked everything and the >> situation is: >> >> LaTeX to Word is now producing the correct output >> MathML to Word is still producing incorrect output >> >> The MathML is: >> >> <math xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" display="block"> >> <mrow> >> <munder> >> <mrow> >> <munder> >> <mrow> >> <mi>x</mi> >> <mi>x</mi> >> <mi>x</mi> >> <mo>…</mo> >> <mi>x</mi> >> <mi>x</mi> >> </mrow> >> <mo>︸</mo> >> </munder> >> </mrow> >> <mrow> >> <mi>n</mi> >> </mrow> >> </munder> >> </mrow> >> </math> >> >> The above renders correctly in Firefox (native rendering) and using >> MathJax. I am pretty sure that this is the right MathML? >> >> I attach a screenshot of what I get when I render the above and the >> output of the transform to Word. I'll keep trying to work out what is >> actually happening. >> >> Many thanks for any insights, >> Emma >> >> On Monday, 22 January 2018 19:27:38 UTC, John MacFarlane wrote: >>> >>> Here's what I get when I convert >>> >>> $$ >>> \underbrace{xxx\ldots xx}_n >>> $$ >>> >>> from markdown to docx (see attached screenshot). >>> >>> That looks just right to me. I wasn't sure how to >>> interpret your "linear format" strings, so I'm not >>> sure what you're seeing. You can attach a screenshot. >>> >>> Your pandoc is compiled against a recent version >>> of texmath (0.10.1). >>> >>> >>> +++ Emma Cliffe [Jan 22 18 10:08 ]: >>> > Dear John, >>> > Thanks for the information below. For some reason I didn't see your >>> > response when you posted it. I have just now tried the latest >>> version >>> > of pandoc from the downloads page (pandoc 2.1.1 Compiled with >>> > pandoc-types 1.17.3, texmath 0.10.1, skylighting 0.6) and I am >>> getting >>> > the same problem. The output in linear format of Word is >>> ((xxx…xx)┬(} >>> > ))┬n which does not render correctly. This seems to be about the >>> same >>> > as what I was getting before: ((xxx…xx)┬⏟)┬n and not what I would >>> > expect to get: ⏟(xxx…xx)┬n >>> > From what I can tell the binary is using a version of texmath that >>> > contains the below mentioned fix? >>> > Thanks for any help you can give us. >>> > Emma >>> > On Tuesday, 3 October 2017 21:52:27 UTC+1, John MacFarlane wrote: >>> > >>> > This bug got fixed in texmath in February 2016. >>> > If you compile your pandoc against the most recent version >>> > of texmath, it should work. >>> > Anyway, this will be fixed in the pandoc 2.0 binary >>> > packages. Or you can try (at your own risk) a binary >>> > from pandoc-nightlies. >>> > +++ Emma Cliffe [Oct 03 17 02:36 ]: >>> > > Morning, >>> > > I am having trouble getting pandoc to convert underbrace >>> either >>> > into >>> > > Word or out of Word. I wondered if there is either something I >>> > am doing >>> > > wrong, whether this is a known problem (I can't find a report) >>> > or if >>> > > there is a work round for converting into Word. >>> > > If I try to convert: >>> > > \[ >>> > > \underbrace{xxx\ldots xx}_n >>> > > \] >>> > > for instance then what I get in Word (linear format) is: >>> > > ((xxx…xx)┬⏟)┬n >>> > > which does not render as a stretched underbrace. >>> > > I would expect to get: >>> > > ⏟(xxx…xx)┬n >>> > > which is typed directly into Word as \underbrace(xxx\ldots >>> xx)_n >>> > (then >>> > > space to trigger). You get the same linear interpretation if >>> you >>> > use >>> > > the mouse to create the structure. >>> > > The above is the direction I am interested in. I am actually >>> > converting >>> > > from MathML and see the same behaviour as in the cut down test >>> > of md or >>> > > tex to docx I have explained above. >>> > > For completeness I tried to convert in the other direction. >>> > Starting >>> > > from the above structure in Word I end up with: >>> > > \[\underset{n}{}\] >>> > > which has not only lost the xxx...xx but underbrace has become >>> > underset >>> > > which is not the same thing. >>> > > Does anyone know anything more about this? >>> > > Many thanks, >>> > > Emma >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> > Google >>> > > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. >>> > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>> > it, send >>> > > an email to [1][1]pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >>> > > To post to this group, send email to >>> > > [2][2]pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >>> > > To view this discussion on the web visit >>> > > [3][3]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ >>> > f240aa27-3e64-430c- >>> > > 82b0-55e095a5b175%[4]40googlegroups.com. >>> > > For more options, visit [4][5]https://groups.google.com/ >>> > d/optout. >>> > > >>> > >References >>> > > >>> > > 1. mailto:[6]pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org >>> > > 2. mailto:[7]pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org >>> > > 3. 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* Re: Conversion of underbrace (to and from Word) [not found] ` <333b70c6-30a1-4167-8135-f6fe87429621-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> @ 2018-01-23 17:02 ` John MACFARLANE 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: John MACFARLANE @ 2018-01-23 17:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw Great, I'm glad it's solved! +++ Emma Cliffe [Jan 23 18 05:55 ]: > Dear John, > Just final confirmation after retesting: to get the transform to work > from mathML to Word I needed both pandoc 2.1.1 (so presumably the fix > you referred to) and the correct unicode symbol in the mathML. > Thanks again, > Emma > On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 11:06:04 UTC, Emma Cliffe wrote: > > Dear John, > Okay, I think that I have solved the issue. The clue was in > [1]https://hackage.haskell.org/package/texmath-0.8.6.5/changelog where > it states "Fixed overbrace, underbrace (#82). Previously we were using > the wrong character: U+FE37 instead of U+23DE. This didn't work in > Word." If I switch the unicode character in the input mathML then the > conversion does then work correctly in a simple test. > The mathML does still render correctly so I guess I need to switch > unicode under and over braces. > Sorry for the confusion and thanks for your time. > Emma > On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 10:27:53 UTC, Emma Cliffe wrote: > > Dear John, > Sorry, I should have tested more extensively. You are correct, this > does fix the LaTeX to Word conversion. However, we are actually > converting MathML to Word. When I originally reported it I got the same > incorrect result on conversion from LaTeX to Word and on conversion > from MathML to Word so I reported both at once as I assumed, obviously > incorrectly that the two issues had the same cause. I have now checked > everything and the situation is: > LaTeX to Word is now producing the correct output > MathML to Word is still producing incorrect output > The MathML is: > <math xmlns="[2]http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" display="block"> > <mrow> > <munder> > <mrow> > <munder> > <mrow> > <mi>x</mi> > <mi>x</mi> > <mi>x</mi> > <mo>…</mo> > <mi>x</mi> > <mi>x</mi> > </mrow> > <mo>︸</mo> > </munder> > </mrow> > <mrow> > <mi>n</mi> > </mrow> > </munder> > </mrow> > </math> > The above renders correctly in Firefox (native rendering) and using > MathJax. I am pretty sure that this is the right MathML? > I attach a screenshot of what I get when I render the above and the > output of the transform to Word. I'll keep trying to work out what is > actually happening. > Many thanks for any insights, > Emma > On Monday, 22 January 2018 19:27:38 UTC, John MacFarlane wrote: > > Here's what I get when I convert > $$ > \underbrace{xxx\ldots xx}_n > $$ > from markdown to docx (see attached screenshot). > That looks just right to me. I wasn't sure how to > interpret your "linear format" strings, so I'm not > sure what you're seeing. You can attach a screenshot. > Your pandoc is compiled against a recent version > of texmath (0.10.1). > +++ Emma Cliffe [Jan 22 18 10:08 ]: > > Dear John, > > Thanks for the information below. For some reason I didn't see > your > > response when you posted it. I have just now tried the latest > version > > of pandoc from the downloads page (pandoc 2.1.1 Compiled with > > pandoc-types 1.17.3, texmath 0.10.1, skylighting 0.6) and I am > getting > > the same problem. The output in linear format of Word is > ((xxx…xx)┬(} > > ))┬n which does not render correctly. This seems to be about the > same > > as what I was getting before: ((xxx…xx)┬⏟)┬n and not what I > would > > expect to get: ⏟(xxx…xx)┬n > > From what I can tell the binary is using a version of texmath > that > > contains the below mentioned fix? > > Thanks for any help you can give us. > > Emma > > On Tuesday, 3 October 2017 21:52:27 UTC+1, John MacFarlane > wrote: > > > > This bug got fixed in texmath in February 2016. > > If you compile your pandoc against the most recent version > > of texmath, it should work. > > Anyway, this will be fixed in the pandoc 2.0 binary > > packages. Or you can try (at your own risk) a binary > > from pandoc-nightlies. > > +++ Emma Cliffe [Oct 03 17 02:36 ]: > > > Morning, > > > I am having trouble getting pandoc to convert underbrace > either > > into > > > Word or out of Word. I wondered if there is either > something I > > am doing > > > wrong, whether this is a known problem (I can't find a > report) > > or if > > > there is a work round for converting into Word. > > > If I try to convert: > > > \[ > > > \underbrace{xxx\ldots xx}_n > > > \] > > > for instance then what I get in Word (linear format) is: > > > ((xxx…xx)┬⏟)┬n > > > which does not render as a stretched underbrace. > > > I would expect to get: > > > ⏟(xxx…xx)┬n > > > which is typed directly into Word as \underbrace(xxx\ldots > xx)_n > > (then > > > space to trigger). You get the same linear interpretation > if you > > use > > > the mouse to create the structure. > > > The above is the direction I am interested in. I am > actually > > converting > > > from MathML and see the same behaviour as in the cut down > test > > of md or > > > tex to docx I have explained above. > > > For completeness I tried to convert in the other > direction. > > Starting > > > from the above structure in Word I end up with: > > > \[\underset{n}{}\] > > > which has not only lost the xxx...xx but underbrace has > become > > underset > > > which is not the same thing. > > > Does anyone know anything more about this? > > > Many thanks, > > > Emma > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to > the > > Google > > > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > from > > it, send > > > an email to [1][1]pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > [2][2]pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > [3][3][3]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ > > f240aa27-3e64-430c- > > > 82b0-55e095a5b175%[4][4]40googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit [4][5][5]https://groups.google. > com/ > > d/optout. > > > > > >References > > > > > > 1. mailto:[6]pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > > 2. mailto:[7]pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > > 3. [8][6]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ > f240aa27- > > [7]3e64-430c-82b0-55e095a5b175-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org?utm_medium= > > email&utm_source=footer > > > 4. [9][8]https://groups.google.com/d/optout > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google > > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > it, send > > an email to [10]pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To post to this group, send email to > > [11]pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > [12][9]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ > 150196ab-c7ac-428b > > -b989-583e8e91db64%[10]40googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit [13][11]https://groups.google.com/ > d/optout. > > > >References > > > > 1. javascript:/ > > 2. javascript:/ > > 3. 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