* Lineblocks in Jats writer
@ 2021-12-13 10:57 denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0
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Hi,
currently, the jats writer seems to convert lineblocks to regular paragraphs. Is that correct? If yes, can this behaviour be adjusted?
Best,
Denis
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* Re: Lineblocks in Jats writer
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@ 2021-12-13 12:55 ` Albert Krewinkel
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From: Albert Krewinkel @ 2021-12-13 12:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
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denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org writes:
> currently, the jats writer seems to convert lineblocks to regular paragraphs. Is that correct? If yes, can this behaviour be adjusted?
Correct. It might be more appropriate to use a `<verse-group>` with each
line in a `<verse-line>`, but maybe that's too specific? Lineblocks
sometimes contain addresses, those would be mistagged.
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From: denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0 @ 2021-12-13 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Gesendet: Montag, 13. Dezember 2021 13:56
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> Betreff: Re: Lineblocks in Jats writer
>
>
> denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org writes:
>
> > currently, the jats writer seems to convert lineblocks to regular paragraphs.
> Is that correct? If yes, can this behaviour be adjusted?
>
> Correct. It might be more appropriate to use a `<verse-group>` with each line
> in a `<verse-line>`, but maybe that's too specific? Lineblocks sometimes
> contain addresses, those would be mistagged.
Hmmm, yes, I would have expected to find a <verse-group> in the output. Would it be possible to add this, and distinguish between different kind of lineblocks?
{.verse}
| This is
| my first
| poem
vs.
{.address}
| This is
| my
| address
That should work in commonmark, right? Or we use a div to add that kind of information...
WDYT?
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@ 2021-12-13 17:39 ` John MacFarlane
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From: John MacFarlane @ 2021-12-13 17:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0, pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw
> {.verse}
> | This is
> | my first
> | poem
This syntax would work with `-f commonmark+attributes` if we
had line block support in commonmark, but we don't.
You can of course do something like
::: {.verse}
| This
| is it
:::
which will create a Div containing the line block.
So, we could modify the JATS writer to take a Div with class
"verse" and produce a verse element. I don't know if that's
too ad hoc.
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From: denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0 @ 2021-12-14 10:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Gesendet: Montag, 13. Dezember 2021 18:40
> An: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) <denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org>; pandoc-
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>
>
> > {.verse}
> > | This is
> > | my first
> > | poem
>
> This syntax would work with `-f commonmark+attributes` if we had line block
> support in commonmark, but we don't.
Ok.
>
> You can of course do something like
>
> ::: {.verse}
> | This
> | is it
> :::
>
> which will create a Div containing the line block.
>
> So, we could modify the JATS writer to take a Div with class
> "verse" and produce a verse element. I don't know if that's
> too ad hoc.
I think that sounds like a good solution. Albert, WDYT? If you think that this could work, maybe we should try to cover other use-cases as well, say addresses. Anything else? What will happen with theses classes when going to other formats?
Best,
Denis
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@ 2021-12-14 14:58 ` Albert Krewinkel
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From: Albert Krewinkel @ 2021-12-14 14:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
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denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org writes:
>> So, we could modify the JATS writer to take a Div with class
>> "verse" and produce a verse element. I don't know if that's
>> too ad hoc.
>
> I think that sounds like a good solution. Albert, WDYT? If you think
> that this could work, maybe we should try to cover other use-cases as
> well, say addresses. Anything else? What will happen with theses
> classes when going to other formats?
Sounds good to me.
I think for the general case, output should be changed to use
`<preformat preformat-type="lines">` or something similar. The only
disadvantage of that is that we have to do some extra work to process
math formulae, as those are not allowed contents of `<preformat>`
elements.
If the LineBlock comes wrapped in a Div, then we could use the first
class of the div as the value for `preformat-type`.
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From: denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0 @ 2021-12-15 14:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Another question:
What happens with stuff like this:
```md
| this
| is a
| poem
| with
| two
| stanzas
```
I think in jats this should be rendered with nested verse-groups, right?
Denis
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> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Lineblocks in Jats writer
>
>
> denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org writes:
>
> >> So, we could modify the JATS writer to take a Div with class
> >> "verse" and produce a verse element. I don't know if that's
> >> too ad hoc.
> >
> > I think that sounds like a good solution. Albert, WDYT? If you think
> > that this could work, maybe we should try to cover other use-cases as
> > well, say addresses. Anything else? What will happen with theses
> > classes when going to other formats?
>
> Sounds good to me.
>
> I think for the general case, output should be changed to use `<preformat
> preformat-type="lines">` or something similar. The only disadvantage of that
> is that we have to do some extra work to process math formulae, as those
> are not allowed contents of `<preformat>` elements.
>
> If the LineBlock comes wrapped in a Div, then we could use the first class of
> the div as the value for `preformat-type`.
>
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From: denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0 @ 2022-01-13 11:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I've added an issue to the issue tracker: https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/7828
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>
> Another question:
> What happens with stuff like this:
>
> ```md
> | this
> | is a
> | poem
>
> | with
> | two
> | stanzas
> ```
>
> I think in jats this should be rendered with nested verse-groups, right?
>
> Denis
>
>
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> > Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Lineblocks in Jats writer
> >
> >
> > denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org writes:
> >
> > >> So, we could modify the JATS writer to take a Div with class
> > >> "verse" and produce a verse element. I don't know if that's
> > >> too ad hoc.
> > >
> > > I think that sounds like a good solution. Albert, WDYT? If you think
> > > that this could work, maybe we should try to cover other use-cases as
> > > well, say addresses. Anything else? What will happen with theses
> > > classes when going to other formats?
> >
> > Sounds good to me.
> >
> > I think for the general case, output should be changed to use `<preformat
> > preformat-type="lines">` or something similar. The only disadvantage of
> that
> > is that we have to do some extra work to process math formulae, as those
> > are not allowed contents of `<preformat>` elements.
> >
> > If the LineBlock comes wrapped in a Div, then we could use the first class of
> > the div as the value for `preformat-type`.
> >
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