Re: Suppressing author in citation

[Tom McLean <thomaspaulmclean-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>]

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Wouldn't that method also require me to manually insert \clearname{author} 
for all the relevant citations? At least, my quick attempt didn't seem 
happy with either \newcommand{\autocite*} or \renewcomand{\autocite*} – the 
former objecting because the unstarred version exists, and the latter 
because the starred doesn't. (Though I don't rule out the possibility of an 
error in the rest of the arguments to \(re)newcommand being part of the 
problem...)

On Sunday, 9 May 2021 at 17:04:59 UTC+2 jcr wrote:

> I meant \clearname{author}
>
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:01:57 PM UTC+2 jcr wrote:
>
>> See the first answer to this question: 
>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/262472/ I don't know if exactly the same 
>> code will work with biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general approach. 
>> You want to make a command to suppress printing of the author (in the 
>> linked answer, it's called \int@suppauth), and then invoke it at the 
>> beginning of the starred cite commands you declare. If it's sufficient to 
>> suppress the author's name, that command can be \clearname{authorname}, but 
>> Chicago style will substitute an editor or translator, so if the citations 
>> in question have one of those, you need a more sophisticated solution.
>>
>> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
>>
>>> Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand 
>>>
>>>
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>>> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation 
>>>
>>> Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then! 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote: 
>>> I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may want 
>>> to look into how the standard styles do this. 
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>>>
>>> It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in biblatex 
>>> styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.) 
>>>
>>> Denis 
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation 
>>>
>>> Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration, can 
>>> anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how to do 
>>> so. 
>>>
>>> Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving in the 
>>> way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote: 
>>> Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat 
>>> unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at 
>>> https://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago 
>>>
>>>
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>>> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org 
>>> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation 
>>>
>>> biblatex-chicago (via biber) 
>>>
>>> Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit : 
>>> > What's the citation style? 
>>> > 
>>> > Denis 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
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>>> Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org> 
>>> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50 
>>> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org 
>>> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation 
>>> > 
>>> > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}. From 
>>> biblatex's manual 
>>> > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave differently 
>>> from the regular 
>>> > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command." So you 
>>> should probably 
>>> > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a no-author 
>>> command (but I 
>>> > can't tell you more. 
>>> > 
>>> > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit : 
>>> > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!! 
>>> > > 
>>> > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a pdf 
>>> that shows 
>>> > > what I'm getting. 
>>> > > 
>>> > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of what 
>>> I'm using 
>>> > > in case it's not a pandoc error! 
>>> > > 
>>> > > Thank you 
>>> > > 
>>> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote: 
>>> > > 
>>> > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote 
>>> are 
>>> > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could 
>>> provide a 
>>> > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem. 
>>> > > 
>>> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org 
>>> wrote: 
>>> > > 
>>> > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote! 
>>> > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name). 
>>> > > 
>>> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote: 
>>> > > 
>>> > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation, 
>>> > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to 
>>> > > modify your csl file to omit the author names. 
>>> > > 
>>> > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org 
>>> > > wrote: 
>>> > > 
>>> > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial 
>>> > > mistake, but I can't see for looking... 
>>> > > 
>>> > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling 
>>> > > to suppress author in the reference. 
>>> > > 
>>> > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for 
>>> > > example): 
>>> > > 
>>> > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982; 
>>> > > -@schillebeeckx1989c] 
>>> > > 
>>> > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as: 
>>> > > 
>>> > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende 
>>> > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx, 
>>> > > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal: 
>>> > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van 
>>> > > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989). 
>>> > > 
>>> > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...? 
>>> > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? 
>>> > > 
>>> > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the 
>>> > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote, 
>>> > > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's 
>>> > > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different), 
>>> > > advice welcomed! 
>>> > > 
>>> > > Many thanks 
>>> > > 
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>>> > 
>>> > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952; 
>>> -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a; 
>>> -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work is 
>>> fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology of 
>>> Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the 
>>> philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a framework 
>>> shaped by phenomenology. 
>>> > > 
>>> > > @book{schillebeeckx1952, 
>>> > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}}, 
>>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus}, 
>>> > > year = {1952}, 
>>> > > publisher = {{'T Groeit}}, 
>>> > > address = {{Antwerpen}} 
>>> > > } 
>>> > > 
>>> > > @book{schillebeeckx1964, 
>>> > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting}, 
>>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, 
>>> > > year = {1964}, 
>>> > > edition = {7de dr.}, 
>>> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}}, 
>>> > > address = {{Bilthoven}} 
>>> > > } 
>>> > > 
>>> > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a, 
>>> > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie}, 
>>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, 
>>> > > year = {1967}, 
>>> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}}, 
>>> > > address = {{Bilthoven}} 
>>> > > } 
>>> > > 
>>> > > @book{schillebeeckx2005, 
>>> > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}}, 
>>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, 
>>> > > year = {2005}, 
>>> > > edition = {First published 1967}, 
>>> > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}}, 
>>> > > address = {{London}}, 
>>> > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9}, 
>>> > > keywords = {Transubstantiation}, 
>>> > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005} 
>>> > > } 
>>> > > 
>>> > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n, 
>>> > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}}, 
>>> > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}}, 
>>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, 
>>> > > year = {2014}, 
>>> > > edition = {First published 1959}, 
>>> > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}}, 
>>> > > address = {{London}}, 
>>> > > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6}, 
>>> > > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments}, 
>>> > > number = {1}, 
>>> > > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}} 
>>> > > } 
>>> > > 
>>> > > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
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