* APA citations: page number only (or at end)? @ 2021-04-01 11:36 Joseph Reagle [not found] ` <122039ca-c6cc-d875-8273-d406b1b29648-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Joseph Reagle @ 2021-04-01 11:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss I haven't used the author/year format in a while and I wonder what's the current best practice for the typical APA pattern: ``` According to Jones (1998), "students often had difficulty using APA style, especially when it was their first time" (p. 199). ``` Do we still have to manually format the page number? ``` According to @Jones1998, "students often had difficulty using APA style, especially when it was their first time" (p. 199). ``` Instead of suppressing author and year (with a double hyphen, for example): ``` According to @Jones1998, "students often had difficulty using APA style, especially when it was their first time" [--@Jones1998, p. 199]. ``` ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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* Re: APA citations: page number only (or at end)? [not found] ` <122039ca-c6cc-d875-8273-d406b1b29648-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> @ 2021-04-01 13:21 ` Joseph Reagle 2021-04-05 18:45 ` John MacFarlane 1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Joseph Reagle @ 2021-04-01 13:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss Also, has any thought been given to the processing of apostrophes with citations such that the following would work: ``` as well as @Sanger2014hwc's interest in ``` instead of needing to: ``` as well as Sanger's [-@Sanger2014hwc] interest in ``` ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: APA citations: page number only (or at end)? [not found] ` <122039ca-c6cc-d875-8273-d406b1b29648-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> 2021-04-01 13:21 ` Joseph Reagle @ 2021-04-05 18:45 ` John MacFarlane [not found] ` <m27dlgsh7m.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: John MacFarlane @ 2021-04-05 18:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Joseph Reagle, pandoc-discuss I've been wanting this too. You could propose on the tracker a way to specify just the locator. I don't know about the syntax though. Maybe double dash would work well, as you suggest. Does anyone have any reactions to this one way or the other? Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> writes: > I haven't used the author/year format in a while and I wonder what's the current best practice for the typical APA pattern: > > ``` > According to Jones (1998), "students often had difficulty using APA style, especially when it was their first time" (p. 199). > ``` > > Do we still have to manually format the page number? > > ``` > According to @Jones1998, "students often had difficulty using APA style, especially when it was their first time" (p. 199). > ``` > > Instead of suppressing author and year (with a double hyphen, for example): > > ``` > According to @Jones1998, "students often had difficulty using APA style, especially when it was their first time" [--@Jones1998, p. 199]. > ``` > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/122039ca-c6cc-d875-8273-d406b1b29648%40reagle.org. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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* Re: APA citations: page number only (or at end)? [not found] ` <m27dlgsh7m.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org> @ 2021-04-05 19:45 ` Joseph Reagle [not found] ` <2802e8ed-9819-2c8d-b313-960c963ef03d-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> 2021-06-15 18:33 ` Joseph Reagle 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Joseph Reagle @ 2021-04-05 19:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw Okay: locator only citation (at end of sentence) #7205 https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/7205 apostrophe's within citations #7206 https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/7206 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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* Re: APA citations: page number only (or at end)? [not found] ` <2802e8ed-9819-2c8d-b313-960c963ef03d-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> @ 2021-04-06 22:35 ` Bruce D'Arcus 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Bruce D'Arcus @ 2021-04-06 22:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 970 bytes --] I usually just put the author at the end. But FWIW, and I'm not sure how well it would translate to a plain text context like this, Frank Bennett added the ability to add "infixes" to citations using citeproc-js. https://citeproc-js.readthedocs.io/en/latest/running.html#special-citation-forms On Monday, April 5, 2021 at 3:45:27 PM UTC-4 Joseph wrote: > Okay: > > > locator only citation (at end of sentence) #7205 > > https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/7205 > > > apostrophe's within citations #7206 > > https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/7206 > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/8fe53b30-3d15-4deb-b4d4-431755be307fn%40googlegroups.com. [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2128 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: APA citations: page number only (or at end)? [not found] ` <m27dlgsh7m.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org> 2021-04-05 19:45 ` Joseph Reagle @ 2021-06-15 18:33 ` Joseph Reagle [not found] ` <71436f8b-fd87-b055-01f2-db80a62746bb-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Joseph Reagle @ 2021-06-15 18:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss #7206 is closed, but I think it merits re-opening as there is one bug and one issue -- running 2.14.0.2. First, if there's another apostrophe in the sentence, the smart punctuation is backwards. Second, I expected the apostrophe to be on the last last name, not after the parentheses. https://reagle.org/joseph/2016/04/min-eg/cite-apostrophe.md -> https://reagle.org/joseph/2016/04/min-eg/cite-apostrophe.html On 21-04-05 14:45, John MacFarlane wrote: > I've been wanting this too. You could propose on the tracker > a way to specify just the locator. I don't know about the syntax > though. Maybe double dash would work well, as you suggest. > Does anyone have any reactions to this one way or the other? > > > Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> writes: > >> I haven't used the author/year format in a while and I wonder what's the current best practice for the typical APA pattern: >> >> ``` >> According to Jones (1998), "students often had difficulty using APA style, especially when it was their first time" (p. 199). >> ``` >> >> Do we still have to manually format the page number? >> >> ``` >> According to @Jones1998, "students often had difficulty using APA style, especially when it was their first time" (p. 199). >> ``` >> >> Instead of suppressing author and year (with a double hyphen, for example): >> >> ``` >> According to @Jones1998, "students often had difficulty using APA style, especially when it was their first time" [--@Jones1998, p. 199]. >> ``` ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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* Re: APA citations: page number only (or at end)? [not found] ` <71436f8b-fd87-b055-01f2-db80a62746bb-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> @ 2021-06-15 19:37 ` John MacFarlane [not found] ` <m2pmwm2a37.fsf-jF64zX8BO0+FqBokazbCQ6OPv3vYUT2dxr7GGTnW70NeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: John MacFarlane @ 2021-06-15 19:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Joseph Reagle, pandoc-discuss You can submit new issues for these if you like (two separate ones please). But I don't know if I'm inclined to do anything about the first one. We'd need some magic method of converting material after the citation into a suffix of the name. Sometimes you want this, sometimes y,ou don't. Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> writes: > #7206 is closed, but I think it merits re-opening as there is one bug and one issue -- running 2.14.0.2. > > First, if there's another apostrophe in the sentence, the smart punctuation is backwards. > Second, I expected the apostrophe to be on the last last name, not after the parentheses. > > https://reagle.org/joseph/2016/04/min-eg/cite-apostrophe.md -> > > https://reagle.org/joseph/2016/04/min-eg/cite-apostrophe.html > > > > On 21-04-05 14:45, John MacFarlane wrote: >> I've been wanting this too. You could propose on the tracker >> a way to specify just the locator. I don't know about the syntax >> though. Maybe double dash would work well, as you suggest. >> Does anyone have any reactions to this one way or the other? >> >> >> Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> writes: >> >>> I haven't used the author/year format in a while and I wonder what's the current best practice for the typical APA pattern: >>> >>> ``` >>> According to Jones (1998), "students often had difficulty using APA style, especially when it was their first time" (p. 199). >>> ``` >>> >>> Do we still have to manually format the page number? >>> >>> ``` >>> According to @Jones1998, "students often had difficulty using APA style, especially when it was their first time" (p. 199). >>> ``` >>> >>> Instead of suppressing author and year (with a double hyphen, for example): >>> >>> ``` >>> According to @Jones1998, "students often had difficulty using APA style, especially when it was their first time" [--@Jones1998, p. 199]. >>> ``` > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/71436f8b-fd87-b055-01f2-db80a62746bb%40reagle.org. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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* Re: APA citations: page number only (or at end)? [not found] ` <m2pmwm2a37.fsf-jF64zX8BO0+FqBokazbCQ6OPv3vYUT2dxr7GGTnW70NeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org> @ 2021-06-16 11:50 ` Joseph Reagle 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Joseph Reagle @ 2021-06-16 11:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss Okay: https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/7384 https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/7385 On 21-06-15 15:37, John MacFarlane wrote: > But I don't know if I'm inclined to do anything > about the first one. We'd need some magic method of converting > material after the citation into a suffix of the name. Sometimes > you want this, sometimes y,ou don't. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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