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From: "Bernardo C. D. A. Vasconcelos" <bernardovasconcelos-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Error caused by document length
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 07:45:19 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
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Also, maybe this could help: https://www.soscisurvey.de/tools/view-chars.php


On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 11:54:52 AM UTC-3 Bastien DUMONT wrote:

> Maybe you could restore the paragraphs you replaced with "test" one by one 
> and convert the document until Bidi throws an error. Then, you can remove 
> the sentences of the offending paragraph one by one until the document is 
> read again without error. Thus you could isolate at least one of the 
> sentences that cause the error.
>
> Le Monday 27 February 2023 à 06:33:28AM, 'Peter Vedal Utnes' via 
> pandoc-discuss a écrit :
> > I just did some further testing, and replaced the sections that I would
> > otherwise have removed with as many words and paragraphs, but no signs, 
> only
> > "test test test" etc. The document then works. So I was wrong about the 
> length:
> > It must be some character or symbol producing the error (only with 
> pandoc, not
> > other EPUB converters). Any idea how to further isolate it, or how to
> > circumvent with a pandoc command or template?
> > 
> > Thanks for the help so far, Bernardo.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > mandag 27. februar 2023 kl. 15:23:57 UTC+1 skrev Peter Vedal Utnes:
> > 
> > I am not sure what you mean by normalize in this context. I'll elaborate 
> in
> > case this is what you mean: In the interest of removing variables that
> > might interfere with troubleshooting, I have copied the text from 
> research
> > papers (not just one, but a few), pasted it in notepad, copied and pasted
> > it back into a new word-file (this is more thorough than "clear
> > formatting"), ran this "pure" file through pandoc and I get the error. 
> If I
> > then randomly shorten the file, the error disappears. This is not the 
> case
> > for my "test" file, but only for research papers, which is baffling. I 
> can
> > only assume that pandoc responds to something like a character or in-text
> > references in particular contexts, or as was my original hypothesis, the
> > number of lines or columns in the EPUB. 
> > 
> > mandag 27. februar 2023 kl. 15:17:10 UTC+1 skrev bernardov...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org:
> > 
> > Have you tried editing the original research paper in some minor way
> > (adding or removing a couple of characters) and then running it? This
> > is a completely wild guess, but maybe the text in the file is getting
> > normalized upon editing them, whereas the original research paper still
> > contains the unedited, unnormalized text.
> > 
> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 10:48 AM 'Peter Vedal Utnes' via pandoc-discuss
> > <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > 
> > I thank you for the suggestion. It is proving somewhat hard to
> > (dis)confirm. I have made a testfile with just the word "test"
> > pasted over and over again, with and without various formatting and
> > with the same length or longer as the proper papers. This file
> > consistently works. But when I attempt to do it with a regular
> > research paper, it only works if I shorten it. Curiously, I can
> > remove either half of the main text, or indeed sections here and
> > there, randomly, and it works, but not with all of them present. I
> > have combed it for special characters or tags, but cannot find
> > any. 
> > 
> > mandag 27. februar 2023 kl. 13:49:58 UTC+1 skrev Bernardo C. D. A.
> > Vasconcelos:
> > 
> > I do not know the answer to this problem in particular, but
> > perhaps it is worth checking the main document and the
> > bibliography for invisible control characters (e.g. `\X{A0}`).
> > They tend to cause all sorts of strange problems that result in
> > random error msgs.
> > 
> > On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 8:16:20 AM UTC-3 Peter Vedal
> > Utnes wrote:
> > 
> > We have a workflow in Open Journal Systems where we use
> > Pandoc to convert word documents to EPUB, and then display
> > them with an embedded EPUB app (Bibi). 
> > 
> > Our resulting EPUBs work fine with both debuggers and
> > viewers like calibre. They work in Bibi, but only when they
> > are reduced to a certain length. Whenever the files exceed
> > approx 100 lines or 600 words, Bibi claims:
> > 
> > TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading
> > ‘getAttribute’)
> > 
> > Meanwhile, the same documents works when converted to EPUB
> > using other converters, or when I reduce the length
> > (length, not size in bytes-- I've tried with graphics,
> > still works). It suddenly works when I reduce the length by
> > removing pure paragraph text, even though all the formatted
> > elements (abstract, references, etc) are the same. 
> > 
> > I recognize that this problem is very specific to the
> > interrelation pandoc <-> Bibi, but I'd be grateful for
> > general troubleshooting suggestions. 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance, 
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
> > 
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2023-02-27 11:16 'Peter Vedal Utnes' via pandoc-discuss
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2023-02-27 12:49   ` Bernardo C. D. A. Vasconcelos
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2023-02-27 13:48       ` 'Peter Vedal Utnes' via pandoc-discuss
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2023-02-27 14:16           ` bernardovasconcelos-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w
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2023-02-27 14:23               ` 'Peter Vedal Utnes' via pandoc-discuss
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2023-02-27 14:33                   ` 'Peter Vedal Utnes' via pandoc-discuss
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2023-02-27 14:54                       ` Bastien DUMONT
2023-02-27 15:45                         ` Bernardo C. D. A. Vasconcelos [this message]
2023-02-27 16:08                       ` John MacFarlane
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2023-02-27 16:22                           ` 'Peter Vedal Utnes' via pandoc-discuss
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2023-02-27 16:39                               ` Bastien DUMONT
2023-02-27 16:49                                 ` 'Peter Vedal Utnes' via pandoc-discuss
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2023-02-27 17:10                                     ` 'William Lupton' via pandoc-discuss
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2023-02-28 15:03                                         ` 'Peter Vedal Utnes' via pandoc-discuss

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