Reference link support in AST (for Quarto's Visual Editor)?

Reference link support in AST (for Quarto's Visual Editor)?

[Joseph Reagle]

I've been looking forward to Quarto's stand-alone Visual Editor as a pandoc-friendly multi-line table supporting editor. However, it rewrites my carefully specified reference links and they wrote:

> We currently aren't able to support reference links because when Pandoc parses the page they are all resolved into "real" links (i.e. the Pandoc AST doesn't have the concept of a reference link, and since our editor is really editing the AST not the markdown text, there isn't any way for us to read or write them).

https://github.com/quarto-dev/quarto/issues/42

Has any thought been given to this?

—Joseph

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Re: Reference link support in AST (for Quarto's Visual Editor)?

[John MacFarlane]

This is all true, yes.  Pandoc was not really designed as a reformatter.  commonmark-hs could be the basis for a more flexible reformatting tool.

Could we change the AST so it explicitly represents reference links as such?  In theory, yes.  But this would be quite a big change, and potentially very disruptive. Also it must be remembered that most of the formats pandoc supports don't have the notion of a "reference link."

> On Feb 8, 2023, at 7:50 AM, Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> I've been looking forward to Quarto's stand-alone Visual Editor as a pandoc-friendly multi-line table supporting editor. However, it rewrites my carefully specified reference links and they wrote:
> 
>> We currently aren't able to support reference links because when Pandoc parses the page they are all resolved into "real" links (i.e. the Pandoc AST doesn't have the concept of a reference link, and since our editor is really editing the AST not the markdown text, there isn't any way for us to read or write them).
> 
> https://github.com/quarto-dev/quarto/issues/42
> 
> Has any thought been given to this?
> 
> —Joseph
> 
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Re: Reference link support in AST (for Quarto's Visual Editor)?

[Joseph Reagle]

Thank you John. Keeping in mind that pandoc is not a reformatter, I nonetheless have occasion to want to convert from markdown to markdown and one other nuisance is my (HTML) comments get quoted and labeled as such in the process; I then can't un-comment them with a single keyboard shortcut in my editor. Is there a way to keep HTML/markdown comments with quotes and label?

```{=html}
<!-- TODO: this day should be one week after persuasion assignment -->
```

On 2/8/23 12:32, John MacFarlane wrote:
> This is all true, yes.  Pandoc was not really designed as a reformatter.  commonmark-hs could be the basis for a more flexible reformatting tool.
> 
> Could we change the AST so it explicitly represents reference links as such?  In theory, yes.  But this would be quite a big change, and potentially very disruptive. Also it must be remembered that most of the formats pandoc supports don't have the notion of a "reference link."
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2023, at 7:50 AM, Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> I've been looking forward to Quarto's stand-alone Visual Editor as a pandoc-friendly multi-line table supporting editor. However, it rewrites my carefully specified reference links and they wrote:
>>
>>> We currently aren't able to support reference links because when Pandoc parses the page they are all resolved into "real" links (i.e. the Pandoc AST doesn't have the concept of a reference link, and since our editor is really editing the AST not the markdown text, there isn't any way for us to read or write them).
>>
>> https://github.com/quarto-dev/quarto/issues/42
>>
>> Has any thought been given to this?
>>
>> —Joseph
>>
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Re: Reference link support in AST (for Quarto's Visual Editor)?

[Joseph Reagle]

Sorry, I meant "without quotes and labels".

On 2/9/23 09:28, Joseph Reagle wrote:
> Thank you John. Keeping in mind that pandoc is not a reformatter, I nonetheless have occasion to want to convert from markdown to markdown and one other nuisance is my (HTML) comments get quoted and labeled as such in the process; I then can't un-comment them with a single keyboard shortcut in my editor. Is there a way to keep HTML/markdown comments with quotes and label?
> 
> ```{=html}
> <!-- TODO: this day should be one week after persuasion assignment -->
> ```
> 
> On 2/8/23 12:32, John MacFarlane wrote:
>> This is all true, yes.  Pandoc was not really designed as a reformatter.  commonmark-hs could be the basis for a more flexible reformatting tool.
>>
>> Could we change the AST so it explicitly represents reference links as such?  In theory, yes.  But this would be quite a big change, and potentially very disruptive. Also it must be remembered that most of the formats pandoc supports don't have the notion of a "reference link."
>>
>>> On Feb 8, 2023, at 7:50 AM, Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been looking forward to Quarto's stand-alone Visual Editor as a pandoc-friendly multi-line table supporting editor. However, it rewrites my carefully specified reference links and they wrote:
>>>
>>>> We currently aren't able to support reference links because when Pandoc parses the page they are all resolved into "real" links (i.e. the Pandoc AST doesn't have the concept of a reference link, and since our editor is really editing the AST not the markdown text, there isn't any way for us to read or write them).
>>>
>>> https://github.com/quarto-dev/quarto/issues/42
>>>
>>> Has any thought been given to this?
>>>
>>> —Joseph
>>>
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Re: Reference link support in AST (for Quarto's Visual Editor)?

[John MacFarlane]

You can disable the raw_attribute extension.

> On Feb 9, 2023, at 6:28 AM, Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> Thank you John. Keeping in mind that pandoc is not a reformatter, I nonetheless have occasion to want to convert from markdown to markdown and one other nuisance is my (HTML) comments get quoted and labeled as such in the process; I then can't un-comment them with a single keyboard shortcut in my editor. Is there a way to keep HTML/markdown comments with quotes and label?
> 
> ```{=html}
> <!-- TODO: this day should be one week after persuasion assignment -->
> ```
> 
> On 2/8/23 12:32, John MacFarlane wrote:
>> This is all true, yes.  Pandoc was not really designed as a reformatter.  commonmark-hs could be the basis for a more flexible reformatting tool.
>> Could we change the AST so it explicitly represents reference links as such?  In theory, yes.  But this would be quite a big change, and potentially very disruptive. Also it must be remembered that most of the formats pandoc supports don't have the notion of a "reference link."
>>> On Feb 8, 2023, at 7:50 AM, Joseph Reagle <joseph.2011-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've been looking forward to Quarto's stand-alone Visual Editor as a pandoc-friendly multi-line table supporting editor. However, it rewrites my carefully specified reference links and they wrote:
>>> 
>>>> We currently aren't able to support reference links because when Pandoc parses the page they are all resolved into "real" links (i.e. the Pandoc AST doesn't have the concept of a reference link, and since our editor is really editing the AST not the markdown text, there isn't any way for us to read or write them).
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/quarto-dev/quarto/issues/42
>>> 
>>> Has any thought been given to this?
>>> 
>>> —Joseph
>>> 
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