From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.text.pandoc/31927 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lyndon Drake Newsgroups: gmane.text.pandoc Subject: Front, main, and back matter? 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In general front matter is often unnumbered or under a=20 different page numbering scheme (i, ii, iii, =E2=80=A6) and includes such t= hings as=20 contents, lists of tables and figures, abbreviations, abstract, preface,=20 and so forth. Main matter then is the body of the work, typically in=20 chapters, and then the back matter is such things as appendices, indices,= =20 and bibliographies. In LaTeX these are indicated by the `\frontmatter`,=20 `\mainmatter`, and `\backmatter` commands, but it is possible to do similar= =20 things in other formats albeit with less semantic content. At the moment, after producing my LaTeX file, I manually move the=20 `\frontmatter` command to the correct place. I imagine that I might be able= =20 to write a filter to do the same thing but I'm not sure how to start. Given that this is no doubt a common issue for the production of books, I'm= =20 also wondering if there might be a good way to approach the issue so that= =20 (in time) there can be a canonical approach to this? (There might be similar things around 'Part's of books, and to things such= =20 as variations in citation formatting per-chapter.) Best, Lyndon --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/= pandoc-discuss/1bba18b4-dde6-4423-810a-2a553f9e1916n%40googlegroups.com. ------=_Part_13979_196206496.1672085592831 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

Is there any common approach to dealing with front m= atter, main matter, and back matter? In general front matter is often unnum= bered or under a different page numbering scheme (i, ii, iii, =E2=80=A6) an= d includes such things as contents, lists of tables and figures, abbreviati= ons, abstract, preface, and so forth. Main matter then is the body of the w= ork, typically in chapters, and then the back matter is such things as appe= ndices, indices, and bibliographies. In LaTeX these are indicated by the `\= frontmatter`, `\mainmatter`, and `\backmatter` commands, but it is possible= to do similar things in other formats albeit with less semantic content.

At the moment, after producing my LaTeX file, I man= ually move the `\frontmatter` command to the correct place. I imagine that = I might be able to write a filter to do the same thing but I'm not sure how= to start.

Given that this is no doubt a common is= sue for the production of books, I'm also wondering if there might be a goo= d way to approach the issue so that (in time) there can be a canonical appr= oach to this?

(There might be similar things aroun= d 'Part's of books, and to things such as variations in citation formatting= per-chapter.)

Best,
Lyndon

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