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From: <denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
To: <albert+pandoc-9EawChwDxG8hFhg+JK9F0w@public.gmane.org>,
	<pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: <attila.torcsvari-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	<jan.stutzmann-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: AW: JATS writer: footnote numbering
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2021 19:41:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1c86470fd46c4eb8b5be9140476ec319@ub.unibe.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87im4zgzbw.fsf-9EawChwDxG8hFhg+JK9F0w@public.gmane.org>

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Albert Krewinkel <albert+pandoc-9EawChwDxG8hFhg+JK9F0w@public.gmane.org>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. April 2021 18:20
> An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Cc: Maier, Denis Christian (UB) <denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>;
> attila.torcsvari-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org; Stutzmann, Jan (UB)
> <jan.stutzmann-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
> Betreff: Re: JATS writer: footnote numbering
> 
> 
> John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> writes:
> 
> > <denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org> writes:
> >
> >> Hey,
> >> I've just realized that footnotes are not numbered in JATS output. Is that
> on purpose?
> >> Best,
> >> Denis
> >
> > I'm not sure.  Maybe Albert Krewinkel would know.
> 
> I think we just went with the examples in the documentation, which
> happens not to specify any numbers. Regardless, we should probably add a
> <label> with the number to the <fn>. Would you open an issue for this?

Yes, I'll open an issue. Besides, I've just went through the documentation, and it says:

> In print, footnotes are traditionally displayed at the bottom of a printed page or in a list at the end of the article (<fn-group>); each footnote reference is marked by a number or symbol, and the text of the footnote is prefixed by the same number or symbol to help the reader associate the text with its reference(s). On screen, footnotes may appear as clickable icons, in a separate pop-up window, in a list with links at the end of an article (<fn-group>), or in a separate footnote area.
https://jats.nlm.nih.gov/archiving/tag-library/1.2/element/fn.html
So, I guess we need to have some flexibility here. Users will perhaps need numbers, symbols or even empty labels depending on purpose and output format.

> 
> To hijack this thread with another question: any suggestions what tags to use
> for spans? I found yesterday that pandoc is still using <milestone-start> and
> <milestone-end>, which were in JATS version 1.1 but are not in 1.2. The
> <target> element could be fitting, or maybe <named-content> or <styled-
> content>?

Yes, <milestone-start/>...<milestone-stop/> is a bit odd although still valid, at least in the archiving tag set. I'm not sure why <target> should be used here. Can you elaborate? Regarding the other two suggestions:
My suggestion would be to go for <named-content>. If I understand correctly, the difference between <named-content> and <styled-content> is rather subtle, but <named-content> deals more with semantics while <styled-content> is more concerned with presentational details.

Denis

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-06 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-06 13:51 denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
     [not found] ` <f4325a98233848df93bb086a29898250-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-06 15:53   ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]     ` <m2blarquiw.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-06 16:19       ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found]         ` <87im4zgzbw.fsf-9EawChwDxG8hFhg+JK9F0w@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-06 19:41           ` denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ [this message]
     [not found]             ` <1c86470fd46c4eb8b5be9140476ec319-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-10 14:19               ` AW: " Albert Krewinkel
     [not found]                 ` <CACaKmZPkxvORmsaN4w2GxWi6s=wpZ_j2QAhBEd_xEmH2DCxoiA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                   ` <CACaKmZPkxvORmsaN4w2GxWi6s=wpZ_j2QAhBEd_xEmH2DCxoiA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-12  8:02                     ` AW: " denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
     [not found]         ` <87h7kecjhk.fsf@zeitkraut.de>
     [not found]           ` <87h7kecjhk.fsf-9EawChwDxG8hFhg+JK9F0w@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-12  8:56             ` denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ
     [not found]               ` <4314f50f6cbb43fabbb701598a66c01f-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-13  6:15                 ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found]                   ` <874kgad813.fsf-9EawChwDxG8hFhg+JK9F0w@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-13  8:07                     ` AW: " denis.maier-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ

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