pandoc-citeproc / citeproc-hs: form-attribute in date

pandoc-citeproc / citeproc-hs: form-attribute in date

[Till A. Heilmann]

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I am not sure this is the right place to ask the question since the issue 
might stem from citeproc-hs. Anyway, using pandoc-citeproc results in 
odd/possibly faulty behavior when displaying dates: pandoc-citeproc 
(citeproc-hs?) does not seem to recognize the attribute 'form' when this is 
given in the date element. For example: If I want to have a date (issued, 
accessed …) displayed in numeric form, I have to put the according 
attribute into the date-part element (to see the difference, use the 
minimal csl example below). Otherwise, it does not work and the month is 
displayed in long form.

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<style xmlns="http://purl.org/net/xbiblio/csl" version="1.0" class="note" 
default-locale="de-DE" demote-non-dropping-particle="sort-only">
<info>
<title>Test</title>
<id>http://www.zotero.org/styles/test</id>
<link href="http://www.tillheilmann.info/english.php" rel="documentation"/>
<author>
<name>Till A. Heilmann</name>
<email>mail-/I5J6v6A6r8ks7CIFnJjIGGXanvQGlWp@public.gmane.org</email>
<uri>http://www.tillheilmann.info</uri>
</author>
<category citation-format="note"/>
<category field="humanities"/>
<summary>Test</summary>
<updated>2014-09-13T22:01:31+00:00</updated>
<rights license="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/">This work 
is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 
License</rights>
</info>
<citation>
<layout>
<names variable="author"></names>
<text prefix=", " variable="title"/>
<date prefix=", " variable="issued" form="numeric">
<date-part name="day"/>
<date-part name="month"/>
<date-part name="year"/>
</date>
<date prefix=", " variable="accessed">
<date-part name="day"/>
<date-part name="month" form="numeric"/>
<date-part name="year"/>
</date>
</layout>
</citation>
</style>

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Re: pandoc-citeproc / citeproc-hs: form-attribute in date

[nickbart1980-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w]

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Please submit an MWE, with expected and actual output. Please also check if 
Zotero with LO or Word, or just Zotero’s “Create bibliography from item” 
yields the same results; if so, I don’t think we’re seeing a 
pandoc-citeproc bug here.

I’ll also note that the CSL example in 
http://citationstyles.org/downloads/specification.html#locale-files-structure 
has ‘form="numeric"’ both in ‘<date form="numeric">’ and ‘<date-part name=
"month" form="numeric" ...>’, so this might be required; you could ask for 
clarification at http://forums.zotero.org/11/.


On Wednesday, 4 March 2015 08:05:12 UTC, Till A. Heilmann wrote:
>
> I am not sure this is the right place to ask the question since the issue 
> might stem from citeproc-hs. Anyway, using pandoc-citeproc results in 
> odd/possibly faulty behavior when displaying dates: pandoc-citeproc 
> (citeproc-hs?) does not seem to recognize the attribute 'form' when this is 
> given in the date element. For example: If I want to have a date (issued, 
> accessed …) displayed in numeric form, I have to put the according 
> attribute into the date-part element (to see the difference, use the 
> minimal csl example below). Otherwise, it does not work and the month is 
> displayed in long form.
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
> <style xmlns="http://purl.org/net/xbiblio/csl" version="1.0" class="note" 
> default-locale="de-DE" demote-non-dropping-particle="sort-only">
> <info>
> <title>Test</title>
> <id>http://www.zotero.org/styles/test</id>
> <link href="http://www.tillheilmann.info/english.php" 
> rel="documentation"/>
> <author>
> <name>Till A. Heilmann</name>
> <email>ma...-/I5J6v6A6r8ks7CIFnJjIGGXanvQGlWp@public.gmane.org <javascript:></email>
> <uri>http://www.tillheilmann.info</uri>
> </author>
> <category citation-format="note"/>
> <category field="humanities"/>
> <summary>Test</summary>
> <updated>2014-09-13T22:01:31+00:00</updated>
> <rights license="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/">This 
> work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 
> License</rights>
> </info>
> <citation>
> <layout>
> <names variable="author"></names>
> <text prefix=", " variable="title"/>
> <date prefix=", " variable="issued" form="numeric">
> <date-part name="day"/>
> <date-part name="month"/>
> <date-part name="year"/>
> </date>
> <date prefix=", " variable="accessed">
> <date-part name="day"/>
> <date-part name="month" form="numeric"/>
> <date-part name="year"/>
> </date>
> </layout>
> </citation>
> </style>
>

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Re: pandoc-citeproc / citeproc-hs: form-attribute in date

[Till A. Heilmann]

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Does not seem to be a 'proper' bug in pandoc-citeproc but a inconsistency 
between Zotero and pandoc-citeproc due to bad coding of CSL style file. See 
https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/47300/date-formattribute-numeric/

On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 9:36:27 AM UTC+1, nickba...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
> Please submit an MWE, with expected and actual output. Please also check 
> if Zotero with LO or Word, or just Zotero’s “Create bibliography from item” 
> yields the same results; if so, I don’t think we’re seeing a 
> pandoc-citeproc bug here.
>
> I’ll also note that the CSL example in 
> http://citationstyles.org/downloads/specification.html#locale-files-structure 
> has ‘form="numeric"’ both in ‘<date form="numeric">’ and ‘<date-part name=
> "month" form="numeric" ...>’, so this might be required; you could ask 
> for clarification at http://forums.zotero.org/11/.
>
>
> On Wednesday, 4 March 2015 08:05:12 UTC, Till A. Heilmann wrote:
>>
>> I am not sure this is the right place to ask the question since the issue 
>> might stem from citeproc-hs. Anyway, using pandoc-citeproc results in 
>> odd/possibly faulty behavior when displaying dates: pandoc-citeproc 
>> (citeproc-hs?) does not seem to recognize the attribute 'form' when this is 
>> given in the date element. For example: If I want to have a date (issued, 
>> accessed …) displayed in numeric form, I have to put the according 
>> attribute into the date-part element (to see the difference, use the 
>> minimal csl example below). Otherwise, it does not work and the month is 
>> displayed in long form.
>>
>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
>> <style xmlns="http://purl.org/net/xbiblio/csl" version="1.0" 
>> class="note" default-locale="de-DE" 
>> demote-non-dropping-particle="sort-only">
>> <info>
>> <title>Test</title>
>> <id>http://www.zotero.org/styles/test</id>
>> <link href="http://www.tillheilmann.info/english.php" 
>> rel="documentation"/>
>> <author>
>> <name>Till A. Heilmann</name>
>> <email>ma...-/I5J6v6A6r8ks7CIFnJjIGGXanvQGlWp@public.gmane.org</email>
>> <uri>http://www.tillheilmann.info</uri>
>> </author>
>> <category citation-format="note"/>
>> <category field="humanities"/>
>> <summary>Test</summary>
>> <updated>2014-09-13T22:01:31+00:00</updated>
>> <rights license="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/">This 
>> work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 
>> License</rights>
>> </info>
>> <citation>
>> <layout>
>> <names variable="author"></names>
>> <text prefix=", " variable="title"/>
>> <date prefix=", " variable="issued" form="numeric">
>> <date-part name="day"/>
>> <date-part name="month"/>
>> <date-part name="year"/>
>> </date>
>> <date prefix=", " variable="accessed">
>> <date-part name="day"/>
>> <date-part name="month" form="numeric"/>
>> <date-part name="year"/>
>> </date>
>> </layout>
>> </citation>
>> </style>
>>
>

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Re: pandoc-citeproc / citeproc-hs: form-attribute in date

[Till A. Heilmann]

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Okay, so maybe it _is_ a bug in pandoc-citeproc. That, at least, is what 
one of CSL's developers, Rintze Zelle, thinks (see 
https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/47300?page=1#Item_5). Where should I 
make the bug report?

On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 9:36:27 AM UTC+1, nickba...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
> Please submit an MWE, with expected and actual output. Please also check 
> if Zotero with LO or Word, or just Zotero’s “Create bibliography from item” 
> yields the same results; if so, I don’t think we’re seeing a 
> pandoc-citeproc bug here.
>
> I’ll also note that the CSL example in 
> http://citationstyles.org/downloads/specification.html#locale-files-structure 
> has ‘form="numeric"’ both in ‘<date form="numeric">’ and ‘<date-part name=
> "month" form="numeric" ...>’, so this might be required; you could ask 
> for clarification at http://forums.zotero.org/11/.
>
>
> On Wednesday, 4 March 2015 08:05:12 UTC, Till A. Heilmann wrote:
>>
>> I am not sure this is the right place to ask the question since the issue 
>> might stem from citeproc-hs. Anyway, using pandoc-citeproc results in 
>> odd/possibly faulty behavior when displaying dates: pandoc-citeproc 
>> (citeproc-hs?) does not seem to recognize the attribute 'form' when this is 
>> given in the date element. For example: If I want to have a date (issued, 
>> accessed …) displayed in numeric form, I have to put the according 
>> attribute into the date-part element (to see the difference, use the 
>> minimal csl example below). Otherwise, it does not work and the month is 
>> displayed in long form.
>>
>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
>> <style xmlns="http://purl.org/net/xbiblio/csl" version="1.0" 
>> class="note" default-locale="de-DE" 
>> demote-non-dropping-particle="sort-only">
>> <info>
>> <title>Test</title>
>> <id>http://www.zotero.org/styles/test</id>
>> <link href="http://www.tillheilmann.info/english.php" 
>> rel="documentation"/>
>> <author>
>> <name>Till A. Heilmann</name>
>> <email>ma...-/I5J6v6A6r8ks7CIFnJjIGGXanvQGlWp@public.gmane.org</email>
>> <uri>http://www.tillheilmann.info</uri>
>> </author>
>> <category citation-format="note"/>
>> <category field="humanities"/>
>> <summary>Test</summary>
>> <updated>2014-09-13T22:01:31+00:00</updated>
>> <rights license="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/">This 
>> work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 
>> License</rights>
>> </info>
>> <citation>
>> <layout>
>> <names variable="author"></names>
>> <text prefix=", " variable="title"/>
>> <date prefix=", " variable="issued" form="numeric">
>> <date-part name="day"/>
>> <date-part name="month"/>
>> <date-part name="year"/>
>> </date>
>> <date prefix=", " variable="accessed">
>> <date-part name="day"/>
>> <date-part name="month" form="numeric"/>
>> <date-part name="year"/>
>> </date>
>> </layout>
>> </citation>
>> </style>
>>
>

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Re: pandoc-citeproc / citeproc-hs: form-attribute in date

[John MacFarlane]

Report at http://github.com/jgm/pandoc-citeproc/issues

Please give a minimal working example, with expected and
actual output, and the link you just provided.

+++ Till A. Heilmann [Mar 05 15 06:25 ]:
>   Okay, so maybe it _is_ a bug in pandoc-citeproc. That, at least, is
>   what one of CSL's developers, Rintze Zelle, thinks (see
>   https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/47300?page=1#Item_5). Where should
>   I make the bug report?
>   On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 9:36:27 AM UTC+1, nickba...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
>   wrote:
>
>   Please submit an MWE, with expected and actual output. Please also
>   check if Zotero with LO or Word, or just Zotero’s “Create bibliography
>   from item” yields the same results; if so, I don’t think we’re seeing a
>   pandoc-citeproc bug here.
>   I’ll also note that the CSL example in [1]http://citationstyles.org/
>   downloads/specification.html#locale-files-structure has
>   ‘form="numeric"’ both in ‘<date form="numeric">’ and ‘<date-part
>   name="month" form="numeric" ...>’, so this might be required; you could
>   ask for clarification at [2]http://forums.zotero.org/11/.
>   On Wednesday, 4 March 2015 08:05:12 UTC, Till A. Heilmann wrote:
>
>   I am not sure this is the right place to ask the question since the
>   issue might stem from citeproc-hs. Anyway, using pandoc-citeproc
>   results in odd/possibly faulty behavior when displaying dates:
>   pandoc-citeproc (citeproc-hs?) does not seem to recognize the attribute
>   'form' when this is given in the date element. For example: If I want
>   to have a date (issued, accessed …) displayed in numeric form, I have
>   to put the according attribute into the date-part element (to see the
>   difference, use the minimal csl example below). Otherwise, it does not
>   work and the month is displayed in long form.
>   <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
>   <style xmlns="[3]http://purl.org/net/xbiblio/csl" version="1.0"
>   class="note" default-locale="de-DE" demote-non-dropping-particle="
>   sort-only">
>   <info>
>   <title>Test</title>
>   <id>[4]http://www.zotero.org/styles/test</id>
>   <link href="[5]http://www.tillheilmann.info/english.php"
>   rel="documentation"/>
>   <author>
>   <name>Till A. Heilmann</name>
>   <email>ma...-/I5J6v6A6r8ks7CIFnJjIGGXanvQGlWp@public.gmane.org</email>
>   <uri>[6]http://www.tillheilmann.info</uri>
>   </author>
>   <category citation-format="note"/>
>   <category field="humanities"/>
>   <summary>Test</summary>
>   <updated>2014-09-13T22:01:31+00:00</updated>
>   <rights license="[7]http://creativecommons.org/licenses/
>   by-sa/3.0/">This work is licensed under a Creative Commons
>   Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 License</rights>
>   </info>
>   <citation>
>   <layout>
>   <names variable="author"></names>
>   <text prefix=", " variable="title"/>
>   <date prefix=", " variable="issued" form="numeric">
>   <date-part name="day"/>
>   <date-part name="month"/>
>   <date-part name="year"/>
>   </date>
>   <date prefix=", " variable="accessed">
>   <date-part name="day"/>
>   <date-part name="month" form="numeric"/>
>   <date-part name="year"/>
>   </date>
>   </layout>
>   </citation>
>   </style>
>
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>References
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>   1. http://citationstyles.org/downloads/specification.html#locale-files-structure
>   2. http://forums.zotero.org/11/
>   3. http://purl.org/net/xbiblio/csl
>   4. http://www.zotero.org/styles/test
>   5. http://www.tillheilmann.info/english.php
>   6. http://www.tillheilmann.info/
>   7. http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
>   8. mailto:pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
>   9. mailto:pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
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