How many pandoc users are there?

How many pandoc users are there?

[John MacFarlane]

I wondered.  This mailing list has about 1000 members.

Of course, there are several ways to install pandoc:  through
cabal, through a binary package, or though a package manager.

github's API allows us to get download stats
(curl -i https://api.github.com/repos/jgm/pandoc/releases).
For the last two versions:

pandoc 1.13.2
DEB      4563
OSX     12293
Windows 22537

pandoc 1.13.1
OSX     21537
Windows 30737

Hackage lists 58632 total downloads, though that is for all
versions, and (I think) only since Hackage started providing
these stats.

It's hard to know about the number of installs via package
managers, but debian popcon says 2721.  (Of course, many debian
users don't select the option to allow popcon to report usage
statistics.)

I don't know how to amalgamate all of this data, but it suggests
to me that the number of pandoc users is somewhere between
50,000 and 100,000.

If anyone has better data, or better ways of estimating from
this data, I'd be interested.

John

Re: How many pandoc users are there?

[Francesco Ariis]

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 09:00:37PM -0700, John MacFarlane wrote:
> I don't know how to amalgamate all of this data, but it suggests
> to me that the number of pandoc users is somewhere between
> 50,000 and 100,000.
> 
> If anyone has better data, or better ways of estimating from
> this data, I'd be interested.


I expect most of Linux users to get pandoc from their repositories. A few
considerations:

    - ubuntu popcon survey count for pandoc is ~= 4500 [1];

    - ubuntu used a factor of 4 to 5.3 to estimate its userbase from popcon
      surveys [2];

    - using a conservative 4 as a factor and putting together Debian and
      Ubuntu stats, we can estimate 36.000 pandoc users on 'debuntu'.

    - this calculation doesn't take into consideration other popular (or
      less popular) GNU/Linux distributions (Fedora, Arch, etc.).
      I have no hard numbers on this but multiplying ubuntu/debian * 2
      will do for now (72k Linux users).

This leads to
    - Linux user: 72k
    - windows:    53k
    - OSX:        34k
    = Total:     159k


[1] http://www.lesbonscomptes.com/upopcon/display.php?packages=pandoc&show_installed=on
[2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2010/03/msg00305.html

Re: How many pandoc users are there?

[kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg]

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Just to add some *personal* data points to this topic:

   - I (1 person, so far not schizophrenic :) have installed pandoc 
   multiple times:
      - on my own machines (5 different desktop and notebooks): a mix of 
      Linux, Windows, Mac OS X — installed pandoc since about 2012 with all 
      updates (multiple downloads of pre-compiled packages if available) 
      - on each of the same machines: a cabal-install-ed ‘current’ version 
      (because pre-compiled packages are not always available) 
      - I made available pre-compiled OSX-*.dmg and Windows-*.zip-Archives 
      in local WiFi networks during 3 different Pandoc+Markdown-workshops I 
      held, with about 60 participants in total 
    - I also installed for friends and family on about 9 more machines 
   (also Win/Lin/OSX) owned by 7 different persons pre-compiled packages, 
   which I didn’t download separately but which I scp-ed or transferred via 
   USB-stick. I know for sure that 3 of these persons use pandoc now 
   regularly (don’t know about the other 4). 

I may not be the ‘typical’ pandoc user (and evangelist) — but facts like 
these make estimating the number of *users* quite difficult… :-)

On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 5:00:55 AM UTC+1, John MacFarlane wrote:

I wondered.  This mailing list has about 1000 members. 
>
> Of course, there are several ways to install pandoc:  through 
> cabal, through a binary package, or though a package manager. 
>
> github's API allows us to get download stats 
> (curl -i https://api.github.com/repos/jgm/pandoc/releases). 
> For the last two versions: 
>
> pandoc 1.13.2 
> DEB      4563 
> OSX     12293 
> Windows 22537 
>
> pandoc 1.13.1 
> OSX     21537 
> Windows 30737 
>
> Hackage lists 58632 total downloads, though that is for all 
> versions, and (I think) only since Hackage started providing 
> these stats. 
>
> It's hard to know about the number of installs via package 
> managers, but debian popcon says 2721.  (Of course, many debian 
> users don't select the option to allow popcon to report usage 
> statistics.) 
>
> I don't know how to amalgamate all of this data, but it suggests 
> to me that the number of pandoc users is somewhere between 
> 50,000 and 100,000. 
>
> If anyone has better data, or better ways of estimating from 
> this data, I'd be interested. 
>
> John 
>
> ​

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