Re: Going round in circles with latex output

[John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>]

If you've got a change to the default latex template that
seems to work better and doesn't cause problems, I suggest
you open a pull request on the jgm/pandoc repository on
github.

We can solicit comments there from some of the people who
have contributed a lot to the LaTeX templates, to see if
they can spot any problems.

+++ Lyndon Drake [Jun 06 17 13:51 ]:
>   I've got a fair way with this. Thanks to all for the help so far.
>   1. By reading through the template, I figured out which variables to
>   define to control the LaTeX output. I'm seriously impressed with
>   Pandoc's setup - I remember the awful pain of doing a LaTeX document
>   from scratch and this gets things started so well. Thank you John &
>   everyone else!
>   2. As suggested by Joost, I shifted the package load order around,
>   retaining all the conditionals and variables in the template. I've now
>   got something which is only different by some reordering from the
>   default template, but which avoids the longtable/bidi conflict. Thanks
>   Joost!
>   I've also been playing around with a couple of filters, based on code
>   from Jesse Rosenthal on this list a few years back. It sort of works,
>   but not well enough to rely on. For the moment, I'm just going to tag
>   every word and block with div/span.
>   It did also occur to me that the proper place to do this stuff is
>   actually in LaTeX, not Pandoc. E.g. I'm going to use biblatex, and I'd
>   want the same rules applied to the output from biblatex. There's a
>   package:
>   https://github.com/Pomax/ucharclasses
>   which does some of this. One way to do it would be to implement the
>   Unicode bidi algorithm http://unicode.org/reports/tr9/ (+ some sensible
>   font switching, which is actually easier than the bidi algorithm) as a
>   LaTeX package, but that's a bit much for my current document. I might
>   have a look at ways to do this properly in July & August though, as I'd
>   like to have it available before I start my thesis.
>   Anyway for the moment I'm pleased that I could get this far:
>   https://www.dropbox.com/s/aeyvkjrox5dwtpz/Screenshot%202017-06-06%2021.
>   37.41.png?dl=0
>   without having to type anything other than plain Pandoc Markdown into
>   some text & csv files, and all the formatting has been done by Pandoc
>   and some config. The thing that made me want to use Pandoc was the
>   memory of my previous thesis (in computer science) where the markup
>   made the document so cluttered I found it almost impossible to actually
>   read the text in the editor. This is promising enough that I'm going to
>   persevere to get a setup that will work for the upcoming thesis.
>   Best,
>   Lyndon
>   PS: in case it's of use to others, the relevant bits of YAML:
>     header-includes:
>       - \newfontfamily\hebrewfont{Taamey David CLM}
>       - \newfontfamily\syriacfont{Serto Jerusalem}
>     lang: en-GB
>     otherlangs: [he, syr]
>   On Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 5:26:21 PM UTC+1, Joost wrote:
>
>     On Tue, Jun 06 2017, Lyndon Drake wrote:
>     > Part of the problem is that if I set lang and otherlangs as
>     > follows:
>     >
>     >   lang: en-GB
>     >   otherlangs: [he, sy]
>     >
>     > I get this:
>     >
>     > ! Package bidi Error: Oops! you have loaded package longtable
>     > after bidi
>     > packag
>     >
>     > e. Please load package longtable before bidi package, and then
>     > try to run
>     > xelatex on your document again.
>     >
>     >
>     > which I guess means that some kind of strange interaction in the
>     > latex
>     > template is producing an undesirable latex file to feed to
>     > xelatex (maybe
>     > pandoc-csv2table is doing something to the produced latex?).
>     No, the template is structured in such a way that polyglossia is
>     loaded before longtable, but polyglossia loads bidi in order to
>     deal with RTL languages such as Syriac.
>     I think your best bet would be to modify the default template and
>     load the other languages somewhere toward the end of the preamble,
>     after longtable and any other packages are loaded. But you'll need
>     to know some LaTeX and understand how Pandoc's template language
>     works in order to do that.
>     In actual fact, though, this may be something John needs to think
>     about, because the default LaTeX template obviously has a problem
>     here.
>     HTH
>     --
>     Joost Kremers
>     Life has its moments
>
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