Re: ultra clean conversion from html to org mode

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From: John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: ultra clean conversion from html to org mode
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 17:04:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170831000406.GE94886@airbears2-10-142-0-249.airbears2.1918.berkeley.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877exkx2zw.fsf-YB6e1s5WF/He5aOfsHch1g@public.gmane.org>

Have you tried

pandoc -f html-raw_html-native_divs -t org



+++ Uwe Brauer [Aug 30 17 19:35 ]:
>
>Hi
>
>I just converted
>https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/30/may-to-press-japan-on-its-eu-trade-deal-in-hopes-of-a-model-for-uk
>To org mode using pandoc (pandoc 1.19 in Kubuntu 14.04)
>
>But the file containts lines such as
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div itemprop="publisher" itemtype="https://schema.org/Organization">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div itemprop="logo" itemtype="https://schema.org/ImageObject">
>#+END_HTML
>
>
>Couldn't they just be ignored in the conversion process since they don't provide much help for org
>mode.
>
>Thanks
>
>Uwe Brauer
>
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>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="site-message js-site-message is-hidden"
>  data-link-name="release message" role="dialog" aria-label="welcome"
>  aria-describedby="site-message__message">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="gs-container">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="site-message__inner js-site-message-inner">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="site-message__media">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="site-message__copy js-site-message-copy u-cf">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="site-message__close">
>#+END_HTML
>
>Close
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>[[#maincontent][Skip to main content]]
>
><<bannerandheader>>
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="top-banner-ad-container js-top-banner">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div id="dfp-ad--top-above-nav"
>  class="js-ad-slot ad-slot ad-slot--top-above-nav ad-slot--top-banner-ad ad-slot--top-banner-ad-desktop"
>  data-link-name="ad slot top-above-nav" data-name="top-above-nav"
>  data-tablet="1,1|2,2|728,90|88,71|fluid"
>  data-desktop="1,1|2,2|728,90|940,230|900,250|970,250|88,71|fluid">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>The Guardian - Back to home
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="new-header__cta-container hide-until-mobile">
>#+END_HTML
>
>[[https://membership.theguardian.com/int/supporter?INTCMP=mem_int_web_newheader][
>become a supporter ]]
>[[https://subscribe.theguardian.com/int?INTCMP=subs_int_web_newheader][
>subscribe ]]
>[[https://jobs.theguardian.com/?INTCMP=jobs_int_web_newheader][ find a
>job jobs ]]
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/international][news]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/commentisfree][opinion]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/sport][sport]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/culture][arts]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/lifeandstyle][life]]
>
> All sections
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div id="main-menu" class="menu js-main-menu" aria-hidden="true">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="menu__inner gs-container">
>#+END_HTML
>
>-  // news
>
>   -  headlines
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/world][world news]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news][UK news]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/science][science]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/cities][cities]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/global-development][global
>      development]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/technology][tech]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/business][business]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/environment][environment]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/tone/obituaries][obituaries]]
>
>-  // opinion
>
>   -  opinion home
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/profile/editorial][the guardian
>      view]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/index/contributors][columnists]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/cartoons/archive][cartoons]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/series/comment-is-free-weekly][opinion
>      videos]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/tone/letters][letters]]
>
>-  // sport
>
>   -  sport home
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/football][football]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/sport/rugby-union][rugby union]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/sport/cricket][cricket]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/sport/tennis][tennis]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/sport/cycling][cycling]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/sport/formulaone][F1]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/sport/golf][golf]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/sport/us-sport][US sports]]
>
>-  // arts
>
>   -  culture home
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/books][books]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/music][music]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/tv-and-radio][tv & radio]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign][art & design]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/film][film]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/technology/games][games]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/music/classicalmusicandopera][classical]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/stage][stage]]
>
>-  // life
>
>   -  lifestyle home
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/fashion][fashion]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/food-and-drink][food]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/tone/recipes][recipes]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/love-and-sex][love &
>      sex]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/health-and-wellbeing][health
>      & fitness]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/home-and-garden][home &
>      garden]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/women][women]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/family][family]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/travel][travel]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/money][money]]
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="menu-group menu-group--search">
>#+END_HTML
>
>What term do you want to search?
>// Search with google
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>-  [[https://membership.theguardian.com/int/supporter?INTCMP=mem_int_web_newheader][become
>   a supporter]]
>-  [[https://subscribe.theguardian.com/int?INTCMP=NGW_NEWHEADER_int_GU_SUBSCRIBE][subscribe]]
>-  [[https://profile.theguardian.com/signin?INTCMP=DOTCOM_NEWHEADER_SIGNIN][Sign
>   in/up]]
>-  
>
>   #+BEGIN_HTML
>     <div class="menu-user">
>   #+END_HTML
>
>   [[]]
>
>   #+BEGIN_HTML
>     </div>
>   #+END_HTML
>
>-  // my account
>
>   -  [[][Comment activity]]
>   -  [[https://profile.theguardian.com/public/edit][Edit profile]]
>   -  [[https://profile.theguardian.com/email-prefs][Email preferences]]
>   -  [[https://profile.theguardian.com/password/change][Change
>      password]]
>   -  [[https://profile.theguardian.com/signout][Sign out]]
>
>-  // International edition INT
>    edition:
>
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/preference/edition/uk][switch to the
>      UK edition UK]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/preference/edition/us][switch to the
>      US edition US]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/preference/edition/au][switch to the
>      Australia edition AU]]
>   -  [[https://www.theguardian.com/preference/edition/int][switch to
>      the INT]]
>
>-  [[https://jobs.theguardian.com/?INTCMP=jobs_int_web_newheader][jobs]]
>-  [[https://soulmates.theguardian.com/?INTCMP=soulmates_int_web_newheader][dating]]
>-  [[https://holidays.theguardian.com/?INTCMP=holidays_int_web_newheader][holidays]]
>-  [[https://app.adjust.com/f8qm1x_8q69t7?campaign=NewHeader&amp;adgroup=Mobile&amp;creative=generic?INTCMP=apps_int_web_newheader][the
>   guardian app]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/video][video]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/podcasts][podcasts]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/inpictures][pictures]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/email-newsletters][newsletters]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian][today's paper]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/observer][the observer]]
>-  [[https://theguardian.newspapers.com/][digital archive]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/crosswords][crosswords]]
>-  Facebook
>-  Twitter
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="menu-brand-extensions hide-until-desktop">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="menu-brand-extensions__inner gs-container">
>#+END_HTML
>
>-  [[https://jobs.theguardian.com/?INTCMP=jobs_int_web_newheader][jobs]]
>-  [[https://soulmates.theguardian.com/?INTCMP=soulmates_int_web_newheader][dating]]
>-  [[https://holidays.theguardian.com/?INTCMP=holidays_int_web_newheader][holidays]]
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="subnav">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="gs-container">
>#+END_HTML
>
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/politics][UK politics]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/world][world]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news][UK]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/science][science]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/cities][cities]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/global-development][global
>   development]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/technology][tech]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/business][business]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/environment][environment]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/tone/obituaries][obituaries]]
>-  more
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div
>  class="js-navigation-header navigation-container navigation-container--collapsed">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="gs-container l-header__inner">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="l-header-pre u-cf">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="brand-bar">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div
>  class="brand-bar__item brand-bar__item--profile popup-container has-popup js-profile-nav is-signed-in"
>  data-component="identity-profile">
>#+END_HTML
>
>ID4179399
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="js-profile-popup">
>#+END_HTML
>
>-  [[][Comment activity]]
>-  [[https://profile.theguardian.com/public/edit][Edit profile]]
>-  [[https://profile.theguardian.com/email-prefs][Email preferences]]
>-  [[https://profile.theguardian.com/password/change][Change password]]
>-  [[https://profile.theguardian.com/signout][Sign out]]
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div
>  class="brand-bar__item has-popup brand-bar__item--has-control popup-container brand-bar__item--subscribe hide-on-slim-header hide-on-tablet"
>  data-component="subscribe">
>#+END_HTML
>
>[[https://membership.theguardian.com/supporter?countryGroup=int&INTCMP=DOTCOM_HEADER_BECOMEMEMBER_INT][
>become a supporter ]]
>[[https://subscribe.theguardian.com/int?INTCMP=NGW_HEADER_INT_GU_SUBSCRIBE][subscribe]]
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div
>  class="brand-bar__item has-popup popup-container brand-bar__item--search"
>  data-component="search">
>#+END_HTML
>
>search
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="brand-bar__item--right"
>  data-component="guardian-services">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div
>  class="brand-bar__item brand-bar__item--jobs hide-until-tablet hide-on-slim-header">
>#+END_HTML
>
>[[https://jobs.theguardian.com/?INTCMP=NGW_TOPNAV_INT_GU_JOBS][jobs]]
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div
>  class="brand-bar__item brand-bar__item--soulmates hide-until-desktop hide-on-slim-header">
>#+END_HTML
>
>[[https://soulmates.theguardian.com/?INTCMP=NGW_TOPNAV_INT_GU_SOULMATES][dating]]
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div
>  class="brand-bar__item has-popup brand-bar__item--has-control brand-bar__item--more">
>#+END_HTML
>
>more
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div id="guardian-services-top-menu"
>  class="popup popup--default is-off top-bar__popup--more">
>#+END_HTML
>
>*** from the guardian:
>    :PROPERTIES:
>    :CUSTOM_ID: from-the-guardian
>    :CLASS: popup__group-header
>    :END:
>
>-  [[https://soulmates.theguardian.com/?INTCMP=NGW_TOPNAV_INT_GU_SOULMATES][dating]]
>-  [[https://jobs.theguardian.com/?INTCMP=NGW_TOPNAV_INT_GU_JOBS][jobs]]
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div
>  class="brand-bar__popup--edition mobile-only show-on-slim-header">
>#+END_HTML
>
>*** change edition:
>    :PROPERTIES:
>    :CUSTOM_ID: change-edition
>    :CLASS: popup__group-header
>    :END:
>
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/preference/edition/uk][switch to the UK
>   edition]] [[https://www.theguardian.com/preference/edition/us][switch
>   to the US edition]]
>   [[https://www.theguardian.com/preference/edition/au][switch to the AU
>   edition]]
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div
>  class="brand-bar__item has-popup brand-bar__item--has-control brand-bar__item--edition hide-until-tablet hide-on-slim-header"
>  data-component="edition">
>#+END_HTML
>
>[[][International edition]]
>
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/preference/edition/uk][switch to the UK
>   edition]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/preference/edition/us][switch to the US
>   edition]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/preference/edition/au][switch to the
>   Australia edition]]
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div
>  class="popup popup--default popup--search js-search-popup is-off">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="js-search-placeholder">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="l-header-main">
>#+END_HTML
>
>The Guardian - Back to home
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="js-navigation navigation navigation--has-signposting">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="gs-container">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="navigation__inner">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="navigation__scroll">
>#+END_HTML
>
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/international][home]]
>
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/international][ home]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news][UK]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/world][world]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/sport][sport]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/football][football]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/commentisfree][opinion]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/culture][culture]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/business][business]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/lifeandstyle][lifestyle]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/fashion][fashion]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/environment][environment]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/technology][tech]]
>-  [[https://www.theguardian.com/uk/travel][travel]]
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>[[#footer-nav][//browse all sections close]]
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div id="all-sections-popup"
>  class="navigation__expandable js-mega-nav-placeholder"
>  data-component="all-nav">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div id="maincontent" tabindex="0">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div
>  class="js-breaking-news-placeholder breaking-news breaking-news--hidden breaking-news--fade-in"
>  data-link-name="breaking news" data-component="breaking-news">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="l-side-margins">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div itemprop="publisher" itemscope=""
>  itemtype="https://schema.org/Organization">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div itemprop="logo" itemscope=""
>  itemtype="https://schema.org/ImageObject">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="hide-on-mobile">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="content__header tonal__header">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="gs-container">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="content__main-column u-cf">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="content__labels content__labels--not-immersive">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="content__section-label">
>#+END_HTML
>
>[[https://www.theguardian.com/politics/theresamay][Theresa May]]
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>* May to press Japan on its EU trade deal in hopes of a model for UK
>  :PROPERTIES:
>  :CUSTOM_ID: may-to-press-japan-on-its-eu-trade-deal-in-hopes-of-a-model-for-uk
>  :CLASS: content__headline
>  :itemprop: headline
>  :END:
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  </div>
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="tonal__standfirst u-cf">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="gs-container">
>#+END_HTML
>
>#+BEGIN_HTML
>  <div class="content__main-column">
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>[[https://www.theguardian.com/politics/theresamay][Theresa May]] has
>held her first talks with Japan's prime minister, Shinzo Abe, in Kyoto
>at the start of an intensive three-day visit intended to reassure the
>country that the UK can swiftly replicate the trade benefits of EU
>membership after Brexit.
>
>Before meeting Abe, May reiterated her intention to kickstart
>post-Brexit trade by replicating existing deals signed by the EU, to be
>amended later as needed, saying this would provide confidence for
>businesses.
>
>May, who attended a traditional tea ceremony with Abe soon after flying
>into Kyoto, Japan's former imperial capital, said she would be asking
>[[https://www.theguardian.com/world/japan][Japan]] to push ahead with
>talks to seal a wide-ranging EU-Japan trade deal, with the idea this
>could then be used as a model for a British deal.
>
>Speaking before the tea ceremony, which was followed by a dinner and
>talks with Abe, May said this model could be used to speed up
>post-Brexit trade arrangements with other countries.
>
>“We can't sign up to a trade deal with Japan or with any other country
>outside of the European Union until we've left the European Union,” she
>told ITV in Kyoto.
>
>“What we can do is to be talking about that future relationship. That's
>what I'm going to be doing here with Prime Minister Abe. I believe we
>can look at an EU-Japan deal as the basis for a future trade deal
>between the United Kingdom and Japan.”
>
>Asked what the point was of a copycat deal, May said this could be a
>starting point, with the arrangements amended as needed after
>[[https://www.theguardian.com/politics/eu-referendum][Brexit]] took
>effect.
>
>“Even if we start on the basis of an existing trade deal that a country
>has with the EU, it will be up to the United Kingdom and that country if
>we wish to renegotiate and change those terms in the future,” she said.
>
>“The important thing is that outside of the European Union the UK will
>have the control and we'll make the decisions about who we have those
>trade deals with and what the terms of those trade deals are.”
>
>However, the Liberal Democrat leader, Vince Cable, said the stated
>approach amounted to a “cut and paste Brexit”.
>
>He said: “Brexiteers promised a new dawn of improved trade deals across
>the world. But rather than jet-setting round the globe, Liam Fox might
>as well be left in a room with a photocopier.”
>
>For her part, May criticised Labour for its change of policy over
>Brexit, leaving open the
>[[https://www.theguardian.com/global/2017/aug/26/labour-calls-for-lengthy-transitional-period-post-brexit][possibility
>of the UK remaining in the EU's single market]] after Brexit.
>
>“What we see from the Labour party is yet another position from them in
>relation to the European Union and as we have also seen, not a position
>that is welcomed by all members of the Labour party,” she told the BBC.
>
>She added: “What I set out in
>[[https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/17/key-points-from-mays-what-have-we-learned][my
>Lancaster House speech]] is you can't be a member of the single market
>without being a member of the European Union, and we are leaving the
>European Union.”
>
>May is spending three days in Kyoto and Tokyo, including a series of
>talks with Abe, an audience with Emperor Akihito, and a speech to the
>UK-Japan trade conference.
>
>As well as trade, the visit includes a focus on defence and security,
>particularly since
>[[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/30/north-koreas-kim-jong-un-says-missile-launch-a-prelude-to-containing-guam][North
>Korea fired a missile across the north of Japan]] in the early hours of
>Tuesday morning, prompting international condemnation.
>
>May, who told reporters on her flight to Japan that China was “the key”
>in exerting pressure on North Korea to curb its missile programme, told
>the BBC she was “pleased that there was a united condemnation” of North
>Korea from the United Nations security council late on Tuesday.
>
>May removed her shoes to participate in the tea ceremony at the
>Omotesenke tea house in Kyoto, where she was greeted by Abe.
>
>The two prime ministers and their interpreters sat on a low bench behind
>the table, while a master of ceremonies and his two assistants opposite
>prepared the tea, drunk out of traditional low cups.
>
>She was to travel with Abe on the Shinkansen high-speed train to Tokyo
>later in the evening. On Thursday, May will visit a Japanese warship and
>address the country's national security council as well as the trade
>event, before seeing Akihito on Friday.
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>   ** [[https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/30/japan-theresa-may-brexit-plan-trade-deal][
>   Japan is as curious as everyone else: what is Theresa May's Brexit
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