getting a message "[WARNING] Deprecated: --latexmathml" -- I have no idea why

getting a message "[WARNING] Deprecated: --latexmathml" -- I have no idea why

[Alec Clews]

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Hello

I have upgraded to pandoc 2.0.3 and I am getting a warning

[WARNING] Deprecated: --latexmathml


It seems to have no ill effect and I still get my output. It appears no 
matter what the output format is (PDF, HTML or plain). I have no maths in 
my markdown (that I know about).

The command I am using is

pandoc --number-sections -s -smart -f markdown+startnum BlogPost.pmd -o 
BlogPost.html

Can anyone suggest why I am getting this message and how to get rid of it.

Many thanks

Alec

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Re: getting a message "[WARNING] Deprecated: --latexmathml" -- I have no idea why

[John MacFarlane]

You should not get this message unless you use
`--latexmathml` on the command line.

Is it possible that your 'pandoc' is aliased to something
like 'pandoc --latexmathml'?  Or that you're actually
running a shell wrapper?

+++ Alec Clews [Nov 22 17 22:00 ]:
>   Hello
>   I have upgraded to pandoc 2.0.3 and I am getting a warning
>   [WARNING] Deprecated: --latexmathml
>   It seems to have no ill effect and I still get my output. It appears no
>   matter what the output format is (PDF, HTML or plain). I have no maths
>   in my markdown (that I know about).
>   The command I am using is
>   pandoc --number-sections -s -smart -f markdown+startnum BlogPost.pmd -o
>   BlogPost.html
>   Can anyone suggest why I am getting this message and how to get rid of
>   it.
>   Many thanks
>   Alec
>
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Re: getting a message "[WARNING] Deprecated: --latexmathml" -- I have no idea why

[Alec Clews]

Thanks for the response. However the output from

`file $(type -p  pandoc)`

is

`/usr/local/bin/pandoc: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64`


and the command I am running is


`pandoc --number-sections -s -smart -f markdown+startnum BlogPost.pmd -o 
BlogPost.html`


Does pandoc have a default configuration file?


Thanks



On 24/11/17 12:00, John MacFarlane wrote:
> You should not get this message unless you use
> `--latexmathml` on the command line.
>
> Is it possible that your 'pandoc' is aliased to something
> like 'pandoc --latexmathml'?  Or that you're actually
> running a shell wrapper?
>
> +++ Alec Clews [Nov 22 17 22:00 ]:
>>   Hello
>>   I have upgraded to pandoc 2.0.3 and I am getting a warning
>>   [WARNING] Deprecated: --latexmathml
>>   It seems to have no ill effect and I still get my output. It 
>> appears no
>>   matter what the output format is (PDF, HTML or plain). I have no maths
>>   in my markdown (that I know about).
>>   The command I am using is
>>   pandoc --number-sections -s -smart -f markdown+startnum 
>> BlogPost.pmd -o
>>   BlogPost.html
>>   Can anyone suggest why I am getting this message and how to get rid of
>>   it.
>>   Many thanks
>>   Alec
>>
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Re: getting a message "[WARNING] Deprecated: --latexmathml" -- I have no idea why

[Ivan Lazar Miljenovic]

On 24 November 2017 at 14:59, Alec Clews <alecclews-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Thanks for the response. However the output from
>
> `file $(type -p  pandoc)`
>
> is
>
> `/usr/local/bin/pandoc: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64`
>
>
> and the command I am running is
>
>
> `pandoc --number-sections -s -smart -f markdown+startnum BlogPost.pmd -o
> BlogPost.html`

Maybe try explicitly using the path to the executable to make sure?

>
>
> Does pandoc have a default configuration file?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> On 24/11/17 12:00, John MacFarlane wrote:
>>
>> You should not get this message unless you use
>> `--latexmathml` on the command line.
>>
>> Is it possible that your 'pandoc' is aliased to something
>> like 'pandoc --latexmathml'?  Or that you're actually
>> running a shell wrapper?
>>
>> +++ Alec Clews [Nov 22 17 22:00 ]:
>>>
>>>   Hello
>>>   I have upgraded to pandoc 2.0.3 and I am getting a warning
>>>   [WARNING] Deprecated: --latexmathml
>>>   It seems to have no ill effect and I still get my output. It appears no
>>>   matter what the output format is (PDF, HTML or plain). I have no maths
>>>   in my markdown (that I know about).
>>>   The command I am using is
>>>   pandoc --number-sections -s -smart -f markdown+startnum BlogPost.pmd -o
>>>   BlogPost.html
>>>   Can anyone suggest why I am getting this message and how to get rid of
>>>   it.
>>>   Many thanks
>>>   Alec
>>>
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>>>   4. https://groups.google.com/d/optout
>>
>>
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Re: getting a message "[WARNING] Deprecated: --latexmathml" -- I have no idea why

[Alec Clews]

Thanks for the suggestion. However it had no affect.


     /usr/local/bin/pandoc --number-sections -s -smart -f 
markdown+startnum BlogPost.pmd -o BlogPost.docx
     [WARNING] Deprecated: --latexmathml

Could this be a bug?

I am happy to supply input markdown file.


On 24/11/17 17:52, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic wrote:
> On 24 November 2017 at 14:59, Alec Clews <alecclews-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> Thanks for the response. However the output from
>>
>> `file $(type -p  pandoc)`
>>
>> is
>>
>> `/usr/local/bin/pandoc: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64`
>>
>>
>> and the command I am running is
>>
>>
>> `pandoc --number-sections -s -smart -f markdown+startnum BlogPost.pmd -o
>> BlogPost.html`
> Maybe try explicitly using the path to the executable to make sure?
>
>>
>> Does pandoc have a default configuration file?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 24/11/17 12:00, John MacFarlane wrote:
>>> You should not get this message unless you use
>>> `--latexmathml` on the command line.
>>>
>>> Is it possible that your 'pandoc' is aliased to something
>>> like 'pandoc --latexmathml'?  Or that you're actually
>>> running a shell wrapper?
>>>
>>> +++ Alec Clews [Nov 22 17 22:00 ]:
>>>>    Hello
>>>>    I have upgraded to pandoc 2.0.3 and I am getting a warning
>>>>    [WARNING] Deprecated: --latexmathml
>>>>    It seems to have no ill effect and I still get my output. It appears no
>>>>    matter what the output format is (PDF, HTML or plain). I have no maths
>>>>    in my markdown (that I know about).
>>>>    The command I am using is
>>>>    pandoc --number-sections -s -smart -f markdown+startnum BlogPost.pmd -o
>>>>    BlogPost.html
>>>>    Can anyone suggest why I am getting this message and how to get rid of
>>>>    it.
>>>>    Many thanks
>>>>    Alec
>>>>
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>>>>    2. mailto:pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
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>>>
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Re: getting a message "[WARNING] Deprecated: --latexmathml" -- I have no idea why

[John MacFarlane]

It's because you wrote `-smart` rather than `--smart`.
`-smart` is equivalent to `-s -m -a -r -t`, and `-m`
is equivalent to `--latexmathml`.

+++ Alec Clews [Nov 26 17 13:23 ]:
>Thanks for the suggestion. However it had no affect.
>
>
>    /usr/local/bin/pandoc --number-sections -s -smart -f 
>markdown+startnum BlogPost.pmd -o BlogPost.docx
>    [WARNING] Deprecated: --latexmathml
>
>Could this be a bug?
>
>I am happy to supply input markdown file.
>
>
>On 24/11/17 17:52, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic wrote:
>>On 24 November 2017 at 14:59, Alec Clews <alecclews-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>Thanks for the response. However the output from
>>>
>>>`file $(type -p  pandoc)`
>>>
>>>is
>>>
>>>`/usr/local/bin/pandoc: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64`
>>>
>>>
>>>and the command I am running is
>>>
>>>
>>>`pandoc --number-sections -s -smart -f markdown+startnum BlogPost.pmd -o
>>>BlogPost.html`
>>Maybe try explicitly using the path to the executable to make sure?
>>
>>>
>>>Does pandoc have a default configuration file?
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 24/11/17 12:00, John MacFarlane wrote:
>>>>You should not get this message unless you use
>>>>`--latexmathml` on the command line.
>>>>
>>>>Is it possible that your 'pandoc' is aliased to something
>>>>like 'pandoc --latexmathml'?  Or that you're actually
>>>>running a shell wrapper?
>>>>
>>>>+++ Alec Clews [Nov 22 17 22:00 ]:
>>>>>   Hello
>>>>>   I have upgraded to pandoc 2.0.3 and I am getting a warning
>>>>>   [WARNING] Deprecated: --latexmathml
>>>>>   It seems to have no ill effect and I still get my output. It appears no
>>>>>   matter what the output format is (PDF, HTML or plain). I have no maths
>>>>>   in my markdown (that I know about).
>>>>>   The command I am using is
>>>>>   pandoc --number-sections -s -smart -f markdown+startnum BlogPost.pmd -o
>>>>>   BlogPost.html
>>>>>   Can anyone suggest why I am getting this message and how to get rid of
>>>>>   it.
>>>>>   Many thanks
>>>>>   Alec
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>References
>>>>>
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>>>>>   2. mailto:pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
>>>>>   3.
>>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/1e23bb84-e4b8-4a3e-83f6-1043b74c8073-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer
>>>>>   4. https://groups.google.com/d/optout
>>>>
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Re: getting a message "[WARNING] Deprecated: --latexmathml" -- I have no idea why

[Alec Clews]

Thank you so much

So now  I am using


pandoc --number-sections -s -f markdown+startnum+smart -V 
documentclass=article --toc BlogPost.pmd -o BlogPost.pdf


and all it good.


On 27/11/17 01:37, John MacFarlane wrote:
> It's because you wrote `-smart` rather than `--smart`.
> `-smart` is equivalent to `-s -m -a -r -t`, and `-m`
> is equivalent to `--latexmathml`.
>
> +++ Alec Clews [Nov 26 17 13:23 ]:
>> Thanks for the suggestion. However it had no affect.
>>
>>
>>     /usr/local/bin/pandoc --number-sections -s -smart -f 
>> markdown+startnum BlogPost.pmd -o BlogPost.docx
>>     [WARNING] Deprecated: --latexmathml
>>
>> Could this be a bug?
>>
>> I am happy to supply input markdown file.
>>
>>
>> On 24/11/17 17:52, Ivan Lazar Miljenovic wrote:
>>> On 24 November 2017 at 14:59, Alec Clews <alecclews-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the response. However the output from
>>>>
>>>> `file $(type -p  pandoc)`
>>>>
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>> `/usr/local/bin/pandoc: Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64`
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and the command I am running is
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> `pandoc --number-sections -s -smart -f markdown+startnum 
>>>> BlogPost.pmd -o
>>>> BlogPost.html`
>>> Maybe try explicitly using the path to the executable to make sure?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does pandoc have a default configuration file?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 24/11/17 12:00, John MacFarlane wrote:
>>>>> You should not get this message unless you use
>>>>> `--latexmathml` on the command line.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible that your 'pandoc' is aliased to something
>>>>> like 'pandoc --latexmathml'?  Or that you're actually
>>>>> running a shell wrapper?
>>>>>
>>>>> +++ Alec Clews [Nov 22 17 22:00 ]:
>>>>>>   Hello
>>>>>>   I have upgraded to pandoc 2.0.3 and I am getting a warning
>>>>>>   [WARNING] Deprecated: --latexmathml
>>>>>>   It seems to have no ill effect and I still get my output. It 
>>>>>> appears no
>>>>>>   matter what the output format is (PDF, HTML or plain). I have 
>>>>>> no maths
>>>>>>   in my markdown (that I know about).
>>>>>>   The command I am using is
>>>>>>   pandoc --number-sections -s -smart -f markdown+startnum 
>>>>>> BlogPost.pmd -o
>>>>>>   BlogPost.html
>>>>>>   Can anyone suggest why I am getting this message and how to get 
>>>>>> rid of
>>>>>>   it.
>>>>>>   Many thanks
>>>>>>   Alec
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