* Smart seems not the same of --smart @ 2017-12-09 18:15 Mario Valle [not found] ` <3b130b4c-1993-468b-b605-23bc04c8bc16-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Mario Valle @ 2017-12-09 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1407 bytes --] In 1.19.2.1 I was using --smart in the conversion from docx to markdown. Now with 2.0.4 I don't know how to use the smart extension to have the same effect, that is, to convert normal quotes into smart ones. Here is my command line: pandoc -f docx --atx-headers --wrap=none --extract-media=. -t markdown MyFile.docx The input docx file contains normal quotes and three dots from a paste of a text file (example attached). It contains also normal smart quotes introduced by Word. if I use -t markdown-smart everything remains as is in the docx file. Instead using -t markdown or -t markdown+smart , as documented, changes "aa" to \"aa\" and smart quotes to normal quotes. Also, as documented, adding +smart to docx has no effect. Can someone enlighten me how to ask pandoc to change normal quotes to smart ones? Thanks! mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/3b130b4c-1993-468b-b605-23bc04c8bc16%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3003 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: ex.docx --] [-- Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document, Size: 12450 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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* Re: Smart seems not the same of --smart [not found] ` <3b130b4c-1993-468b-b605-23bc04c8bc16-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> @ 2017-12-10 3:42 ` Mario Valle [not found] ` <6936cf4f-665b-47e6-8895-4efaa226709b-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Mario Valle @ 2017-12-10 3:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 848 bytes --] smart works going in the other direction from markdown to docx: pandoc -f markdown+smart -o ex2.docx ex.md Besides devising a monster pipeline (docx -> md | md+smart -> docx | docx -> md-smart) is there other ways to convert normal to smart quotes? Thanks for looking! mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/6936cf4f-665b-47e6-8895-4efaa226709b%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1461 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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* Re: Smart seems not the same of --smart [not found] ` <6936cf4f-665b-47e6-8895-4efaa226709b-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> @ 2017-12-10 18:36 ` John MacFarlane [not found] ` <20171210183631.GB600-9Rnp8PDaXcadBw3G0RLmbRFnWt+6NQIA@public.gmane.org> 2017-12-12 9:36 ` BP Jonsson 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: John MacFarlane @ 2017-12-10 18:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw +smart doesn't affect the docx reader at all. Jesse Rosenthal might be able to say more about this decision, but I imagine it's because Word already has a smart quote feature, converting straight to curly quotes on the fly, so the assumption is that straight quotes are there because they're wanted (like an escaped \" in markdown). +++ Mario Valle [Dec 09 17 19:42 ]: > smart works going in the other direction from markdown to docx: > pandoc -f markdown+smart -o ex2.docx ex.md > Besides devising a monster pipeline (docx -> md | md+smart -> docx | > docx -> md-smart) > is there other ways to convert normal to smart quotes? > Thanks for looking! > mario > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [1]pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To post to this group, send email to > [2]pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit > [3]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/6936cf4f-665b-47e6- > 8895-4efaa226709b%40googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit [4]https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >References > > 1. mailto:pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > 2. mailto:pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > 3. https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/6936cf4f-665b-47e6-8895-4efaa226709b-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer > 4. https://groups.google.com/d/optout ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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* Re: Smart seems not the same of --smart [not found] ` <20171210183631.GB600-9Rnp8PDaXcadBw3G0RLmbRFnWt+6NQIA@public.gmane.org> @ 2017-12-11 9:36 ` siliconvalley58-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w [not found] ` <385b120d-0fa4-e68b-084b-05b736477c53-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: siliconvalley58-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w @ 2017-12-11 9:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw, John MacFarlane Now understand. Thanks! Seems mine is a misplaced expectation. Could I promote the issue to feature request? Something like an extension called force-smart that converts every quote and every ... to the typographic form. It is quite common for me to find non-typographic sign in Word documents due to pasting a plain text to Word. Thanks again mario On 10-Dec-17 19:36, John MacFarlane wrote: > +smart doesn't affect the docx reader at all. Jesse > Rosenthal might be able to say more about this decision, but > I imagine it's because Word already has a smart quote > feature, converting straight to curly quotes on the fly, so > the assumption is that straight quotes are there because > they're wanted (like an escaped \" in markdown). > > +++ Mario Valle [Dec 09 17 19:42 ]: >> smart works going in the other direction from markdown to docx: >> pandoc -f markdown+smart -o ex2.docx ex.md >> Besides devising a monster pipeline (docx -> md | md+smart -> docx | >> docx -> md-smart) >> is there other ways to convert normal to smart quotes? >> Thanks for looking! >> mario >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to [1]pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> To post to this group, send email to >> [2]pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> [3]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/6936cf4f-665b-47e6- >> 8895-4efaa226709b%40googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit [4]https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> References >> >> 1. mailto:pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org >> 2. mailto:pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org >> 3. >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/6936cf4f-665b-47e6-8895-4efaa226709b-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer >> 4. https://groups.google.com/d/optout > -- Ing. Mario Valle Swiss National Supercomputing Centre (CSCS) v. Trevano 131, 6900 Lugano, Switzerland Tel: +41 (91) 610.82.60 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/385b120d-0fa4-e68b-084b-05b736477c53%40gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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* Re: Smart seems not the same of --smart [not found] ` <385b120d-0fa4-e68b-084b-05b736477c53-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> @ 2017-12-11 15:37 ` John MacFarlane 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: John MacFarlane @ 2017-12-11 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw +++ siliconvalley58-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [Dec 11 17 10:36 ]: >Now understand. Thanks! >Seems mine is a misplaced expectation. > >Could I promote the issue to feature request? >Something like an extension called force-smart that converts every >quote and every ... to the typographic form. >It is quite common for me to find non-typographic sign in Word >documents due to pasting a plain text to Word. If the maintainer of the docx reader wants to add support for the `smart` extension, that could be done. One wouldn't need a new extension. But I'm not sure it's worth it. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Smart seems not the same of --smart [not found] ` <6936cf4f-665b-47e6-8895-4efaa226709b-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> 2017-12-10 18:36 ` John MacFarlane @ 2017-12-12 9:36 ` BP Jonsson 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: BP Jonsson @ 2017-12-12 9:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1986 bytes --] I have found, long before 2.0, that going via Markdown ``` pandoc -f FORMAT1 -t markdown <INPUT | pandoc -f markdown -t FORMAT2 >OUTPUT ``` generally gives better results when converting between two non-Markdown formats. I have no idea why this is so though. Den 10 dec 2017 04:42 skrev "Mario Valle" <siliconvalley58-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>: > smart works going in the other direction from markdown to docx: > pandoc -f markdown+smart -o ex2.docx ex.md > Besides devising a monster pipeline (docx -> md | md+smart -> docx | docx > -> md-smart) > is there other ways to convert normal to smart quotes? > Thanks for looking! > mario > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > msgid/pandoc-discuss/6936cf4f-665b-47e6-8895-4efaa226709b% > 40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/6936cf4f-665b-47e6-8895-4efaa226709b%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/CAFC_yuQP7Ckoq_4nTj7jiJTkCwWjBo%3Dij%2BDvxvm-FeYQ_zNyZg%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3374 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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