From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.text.pandoc/26002 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marc Chantreux Newsgroups: gmane.text.pandoc Subject: Re: Markdown Discord/Slack? Just a thought... 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[94.242.205.164]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 64si69106wmb.1.2020.08.26.02.32.06 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 26 Aug 2020 02:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eiro-fbXiWI9j2LLYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org designates 94.242.205.164 as permitted sender) client-ip=94.242.205.164; Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by aurora-borealis.phear.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E67B10913 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 09:32:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at phear.org Original-Received: from aurora-borealis.phear.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.phear.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eOuv9lxqGNMP for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 09:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from prometheus.u-strasbg.fr (82-65-50-238.subs.proxad.net [82.65.50.238]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: khatar) by aurora-borealis.phear.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C361110910 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 09:32:04 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 aurora-borealis.phear.org C361110910 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: eiro-fbXiWI9j2LLYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@phear.org header.s=20180217 header.b=BOWJ13nR; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eiro-fbXiWI9j2LLYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org designates 94.242.205.164 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=eiro-fbXiWI9j2LLYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.text.pandoc:26002 Archived-At: hello On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:35:01AM +0200, BPJ wrote: > I agree emphatically with this and the rest of what Marc said. actually, i replied to Gabriel also because i feel his pain and there is an issue to adress there: * web people are happy about web because it looks good and it's easy to dive in. i get it ... * people like us don't want to loose all the opportunity the plain text gives us. both visions are valid but incompatible and communities have to make choices (and make a part of them unhappy) or try to use broken bridges (like the so called "mailing-list mode" of discourse which is just unusable) and break the whole flow. i thought about it for years. even tried to contribute to a mailing list manager but i quickly realize that webmails will never be capable enough to embrace all the features i expect from an MUA (+ it is really hard to find a very talented frontend devel to work on those kind of things because they don't get the point). So when i read "Just a thought...", i thought "what a thought" :) At least we can help Gabriel about the "format" thing. regards. marc