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Thanks for this, however when I look at the different xml-files I couldn't = find the text I typed in the Word document. Strange. Best regards Thomas=20 > Den 11. jan. 2022 kl. 10.52 skrev denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org: >=20 > A docx file is just a zip file consisting of a bunch of xml files. Change= the file extension to zip, then you can unzip that file and investigate th= e contents. >=20 >> -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von Thomas Byskov Dalgaard >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Januar 2022 10:49 >> An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org >> Betreff: Re: Inserting blank lines into a document using Markdown >>=20 >> Hi Bastien! >>=20 >> Interesting. >>=20 >> How did you read the source from the Word document? >> I may look into this some more. So I am interested to know how to get in= to >> reading docx source, then I might find out what to do about the issue I = am >> having. >> Thanks >> Best regards Thomas >>=20 >>> Den 6. jan. 2022 kl. 09.31 skrev Bastien DUMONT >> : >>>=20 >>> I checked the docx file (including its source code): it is perfectly no= rmal. The >> problem may be with your displaying software. >>>=20 >>> Le Wednesday 05 January 2022 =C3=A0 10:49:35PM, Thomas Byskov Dalgaard = a >> =C3=A9crit : >>>> Hi Bastien! >>>>=20 >>>> I have tried to attach the two files. >>>>=20 >>>> Please let me know your findings here. >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks in advance >>>>=20 >>>> Best regards Thomas >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> Den 5. jan. 2022 kl. 22.18 skrev Bastien DUMONT >> : >>>>>=20 >>>>> Sorry, I just tried with pandoc 2.16.2 and it worked as expected... M= aybe >> you could share you exact input and output files restricted to this mini= mal >> example? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Le Wednesday 05 January 2022 =C3=A0 08:49:54PM, Thomas Byskov Dalgaar= d a >> =C3=A9crit : >>>>>> Hi Bastien! >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Here is the result from 2.16.2 converted from Markdown to docx: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> This is a paragraph. After it, a blank line will be inserted. >>>>>>=20 >>>>> This is the following paragraph. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I see a strange character there where the blank line should have ben >> inserted. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I use Markdown quite extensively when using Braille, the way blind a= nd >> visually impaired people read with their fingers. >>>>>> I have a braille display connected to my computer and therefor I can >> get nice results via Markdown, I use Pandoc for converting documents whe= n >> I need them to look elegant. >>>>>> Yes, I could use Word, but I preer Markdown and plain text. :) Do >>>>>> you think I have found a bug here? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Best regards Thomas >>>>>>> Den 5. jan. 2022 kl. 14.12 skrev Bastien DUMONT >> : >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> I don't get any special character in DOCX, but I still use pandoc 2= .14. If >> the exact code I wrote produces one in v. 2.16.2, this may be a bug. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Don't write the backslash between two blank lines if you want only >> one blank line: this indicates a paragraph containing a line break, so y= ou will >> end up with two blank lines in the output. Instead, write the backslash = on the >> line immediately preceding the paragraph, as I showed in my example. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> In what cases do you want to insert some blank space before a >> paragraph? It would probably be better achieved through styling. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Le Wednesday 05 January 2022 =C3=A0 11:57:49AM, Thomas Byskov >> Dalgaard a =C3=A9crit : >>>>>>>> Hi Bastien! >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Thanks for your idea. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> I am a little behind on HTML 5 specs, because I mostly work in >> Markdown. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> The following worked: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> ~~~ >>>>>>>> This is the first paragraph. After this sentence there is inserted= a >> blank line before the next paragraph. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> \ >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Here starts the next paragraph. >>>>>>>> ~~~ >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> I noticed though that this inserts a special character when I conv= ert >> from Markdown to docx-files. It looks like the escaped linebreak does >> something unexpected. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> I also noticed that If I want to insert a heading I can't get blan= k lines >> before this element in docx-files as well. >>>>>>>> How can I troubleshot this? >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Best regards Thomas >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Den 7. nov. 2021 kl. 11.40 skrev Bastien DUMONT >> : >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> This can be achieved by escaping the first line at the begin of t= he >> paragraph: >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>>>> This is a paragraph. After it, >>>>>>>>> a blank line will be inserted. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> \ >>>>>>>>> This is the following paragraph. >>>>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> However, if your inserting of a blank line follows some general >> criteria, there could be a better way to do this than manual insertion. >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Bastien >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>> Le Sunday 07 November 2021 =C3=A0 11:29:52AM, Thomas Byskov >> Dalgaard a =C3=A9crit : >>>>>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> When I render documents I have written in Markdown (the >> variant Pandoc defaults to) I find that I in a few cases want to include= some >> blank lines before a new paragraph. >>>>>>>>>> Is there a way to do this easily when writing in Markdown? >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> Best regards Thomas >>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. >>>>>>>>>> To 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