From: jcr <ffi.appdev-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Suppressing author in citation
Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 08:04:59 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
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I meant \clearname{author}
On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:01:57 PM UTC+2 jcr wrote:
> See the first answer to this question:
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/262472/ I don't know if exactly the same
> code will work with biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general approach.
> You want to make a command to suppress printing of the author (in the
> linked answer, it's called \int@suppauth), and then invoke it at the
> beginning of the starred cite commands you declare. If it's sufficient to
> suppress the author's name, that command can be \clearname{authorname}, but
> Chicago style will substitute an editor or translator, so if the citations
> in question have one of those, you need a more sophisticated solution.
>
> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
>> Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
>> Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12
>> An: pandoc-discuss
>> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>>
>> Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then!
>>
>> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
>> I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may want
>> to look into how the standard styles do this.
>> ________________________________________
>> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
>> Auftrag von denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org <denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org>
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39
>> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
>> Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation
>>
>> It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in biblatex
>> styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.)
>>
>> Denis
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
>> Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50
>> An: pandoc-discuss
>> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>>
>> Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration, can
>> anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how to do
>> so.
>>
>> Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving in the
>> way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual.
>>
>> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
>> Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat
>> unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at
>> https://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
>> Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18
>> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
>> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>>
>> biblatex-chicago (via biber)
>>
>> Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit :
>> > What's the citation style?
>> >
>> > Denis
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________________
>> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im
>> Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org>
>> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50
>> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
>> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation
>> >
>> > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}. From
>> biblatex's manual
>> > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave differently
>> from the regular
>> > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command." So you
>> should probably
>> > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a no-author
>> command (but I
>> > can't tell you more.
>> >
>> > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit :
>> > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!!
>> > >
>> > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a pdf
>> that shows
>> > > what I'm getting.
>> > >
>> > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of what
>> I'm using
>> > > in case it's not a pandoc error!
>> > >
>> > > Thank you
>> > >
>> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
>> > >
>> > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote
>> are
>> > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could
>> provide a
>> > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem.
>> > >
>> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote!
>> > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name).
>> > >
>> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote:
>> > >
>> > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation,
>> > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to
>> > > modify your csl file to omit the author names.
>> > >
>> > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial
>> > > mistake, but I can't see for looking...
>> > >
>> > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling
>> > > to suppress author in the reference.
>> > >
>> > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for
>> > > example):
>> > >
>> > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982;
>> > > -@schillebeeckx1989c]
>> > >
>> > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as:
>> > >
>> > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende
>> > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx,
>> > > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal:
>> > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van
>> > > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989).
>> > >
>> > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...?
>> > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
>> > >
>> > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the
>> > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote,
>> > > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's
>> > > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different),
>> > > advice welcomed!
>> > >
>> > > Many thanks
>> > >
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>> >
>> >
>> > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952;
>> -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a;
>> -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work is
>> fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology of
>> Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the
>> philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a framework
>> shaped by phenomenology.
>> > >
>> > > @book{schillebeeckx1952,
>> > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}},
>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus},
>> > > year = {1952},
>> > > publisher = {{'T Groeit}},
>> > > address = {{Antwerpen}}
>> > > }
>> > >
>> > > @book{schillebeeckx1964,
>> > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting},
>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
>> > > year = {1964},
>> > > edition = {7de dr.},
>> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
>> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
>> > > }
>> > >
>> > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a,
>> > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie},
>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
>> > > year = {1967},
>> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}},
>> > > address = {{Bilthoven}}
>> > > }
>> > >
>> > > @book{schillebeeckx2005,
>> > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}},
>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
>> > > year = {2005},
>> > > edition = {First published 1967},
>> > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}},
>> > > address = {{London}},
>> > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9},
>> > > keywords = {Transubstantiation},
>> > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005}
>> > > }
>> > >
>> > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n,
>> > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}},
>> > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}},
>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward},
>> > > year = {2014},
>> > > edition = {First published 1959},
>> > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}},
>> > > address = {{London}},
>> > > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6},
>> > > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments},
>> > > number = {1},
>> > > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}}
>> > > }
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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