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From: jcr <ffi.appdev-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Suppressing author in citation
Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 08:04:59 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
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I meant \clearname{author}

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 5:01:57 PM UTC+2 jcr wrote:

> See the first answer to this question: 
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/262472/ I don't know if exactly the same 
> code will work with biblatex-chicago, but it shows the general approach. 
> You want to make a command to suppress printing of the author (in the 
> linked answer, it's called \int@suppauth), and then invoke it at the 
> beginning of the starred cite commands you declare. If it's sufficient to 
> suppress the author's name, that command can be \clearname{authorname}, but 
> Chicago style will substitute an editor or translator, so if the citations 
> in question have one of those, you need a more sophisticated solution.
>
> On Saturday, May 8, 2021 at 4:43:44 PM UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote:
>
>> Hint: look for declarecitecommand and declareautocitecommand 
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________ 
>> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im 
>> Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> 
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:40:12 
>> An: pandoc-discuss 
>> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation 
>>
>> Thank you! I'll see if I can get anywhere before then! 
>>
>> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 16:32:53 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote: 
>> I can look into this on Monday. If you an earlier solution you may want 
>> to look into how the standard styles do this. 
>> ________________________________________ 
>> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im 
>> Auftrag von denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org <denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org> 
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:29:39 
>> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org 
>> Betreff: AW: Suppressing author in citation 
>>
>> It has nothing to do with biber. Cite-commands are defined in biblatex 
>> styles. (Can't check at the moment what you need to do.) 
>>
>> Denis 
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________ 
>> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im 
>> Auftrag von Tom McLean <thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> 
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 16:13:50 
>> An: pandoc-discuss 
>> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation 
>>
>> Regarding Bastien's suggestion on changing the Biber configuration, can 
>> anyone tell me how to do that? I can't find anything useful on how to do 
>> so. 
>>
>> Denis – as far as I can see autocite* doesn't seem to be behaving in the 
>> way described for cite* in the biblatex-chicago manual. 
>>
>> On Saturday, 8 May 2021 at 13:13:39 UTC+2 denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org wrote: 
>> Ok, IIUC this style implements the starred variants ins a somewhat 
>> unusual way. See starting at p64 in the manual available at 
>> https://www.ctan.org/pkg/biblatex-chicago 
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________ 
>> Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im 
>> Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org> 
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 12:39:18 
>> An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org 
>> Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation 
>>
>> biblatex-chicago (via biber) 
>>
>> Le Saturday 08 May 2021 à 10:34:28AM, denis...-FfwAq0itz3ofv37vnLkPlQ@public.gmane.org a écrit : 
>> > What's the citation style? 
>> > 
>> > Denis 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > ________________________________________ 
>> > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> im 
>> Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT <bastien...-VwIFZPTo/vqsTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org> 
>> > Gesendet: Samstag, 8. Mai 2021 11:02:50 
>> > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org 
>> > Betreff: Re: Suppressing author in citation 
>> > 
>> > With --biblatex, pandoc outputs [-@Smith] as \autocite*{Smith}. From 
>> biblatex's manual 
>> > p. 112, "The starred variants of \autocite do not behave differently 
>> from the regular 
>> > ones. The asterisk is simply passed on to the backend command." So you 
>> should probably 
>> > change biber's configuration in order to make \autocite* a no-author 
>> command (but I 
>> > can't tell you more. 
>> > 
>> > Le Friday 07 May 2021 à 01:53:43PM, Tom McLean a écrit : 
>> > > Well at least that means it's not a really obvious mistake!! 
>> > > 
>> > > Attached are minimal versions of my md file, my bib file, and a pdf 
>> that shows 
>> > > what I'm getting. 
>> > > 
>> > > Also attached are a shell file and tex file giving the rest of what 
>> I'm using 
>> > > in case it's not a pandoc error! 
>> > > 
>> > > Thank you 
>> > > 
>> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:03:53 UTC+2 gnpan wrote: 
>> > > 
>> > > OK, but i cannot reproduce this: citations with -@ within a footnote 
>> are 
>> > > formatted correctly, i.e. only the year is shown. Maybe you could 
>> provide a 
>> > > minimum markdown file and a bib file that give you this problem. 
>> > > 
>> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 20:23:03 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote: 
>> > > 
>> > > Sorry if I'm not being clear – that is the citation in the footnote! 
>> > > The bibliography appears correctly (including author's name). 
>> > > 
>> > > On Friday, 7 May 2021 at 19:06:34 UTC+2 gnpan wrote: 
>> > > 
>> > > The minus sign will remove the author name only from the citation, 
>> > > not the formatted bibliography. To do the latter, you will need to 
>> > > modify your csl file to omit the author names. 
>> > > 
>> > > On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:22:45 UTC+3 thomaspa...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org 
>> > > wrote: 
>> > > 
>> > > Hi – newbie here, so there's a risk that this is a trivial 
>> > > mistake, but I can't see for looking... 
>> > > 
>> > > I'm working with citations are in footnotes, and am struggling 
>> > > to suppress author in the reference. 
>> > > 
>> > > The ones I thought were easy are in markdown document as (for 
>> > > example): 
>> > > 
>> > > [-@schillebeeckx1974; -@schillebeeckx1982; 
>> > > -@schillebeeckx1989c] 
>> > > 
>> > > which are appearing in a footnote in the PDF once compiled as: 
>> > > 
>> > > 3. Edward Schillebeeckx, Jezus: Het Verhaal van Een Levende 
>> > > (Bloemendaal: Nelissen, 1974); Edward Schillebeeckx, 
>> > > Gerechtigheid En Liefde: Genade En Bevrijding (Bloemendaal: 
>> > > Nelissen, 1982); Edward Schillebeeckx, Mensen Als Verhaal van 
>> > > God (Baarn: Nelissen, 1989). 
>> > > 
>> > > I thought that this should be with author's name removed...? 
>> > > Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? 
>> > > 
>> > > I have some more complex references too, which are showing the 
>> > > same problem, but these occur within an extended footnote, 
>> > > which I've created as a footnote in the .md file. If there's 
>> > > any tricks anyone can share on how to fix those (if different), 
>> > > advice welcomed! 
>> > > 
>> > > Many thanks 
>> > > 
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>> > 
>> > 
>> > > published in English as *The Eucharist*.[-@schillebeeckx1952; 
>> -@schillebeeckx1964; -@schillebeeckx2014n; -@schillebeeckx1967a; 
>> -@schillebeeckx2005] In this chapter I argue that Schillebeeckx’s work is 
>> fundamentally a work of interpretation of the sacramental theology of 
>> Thomas Aquinas. He is concerned to recast that thought from the 
>> philosophical framework that Thomas adapts from Aristotle into a framework 
>> shaped by phenomenology. 
>> > > 
>> > > @book{schillebeeckx1952, 
>> > > title = {De {{Sacramentele Heilseconomie}}}, 
>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Henricus}, 
>> > > year = {1952}, 
>> > > publisher = {{'T Groeit}}, 
>> > > address = {{Antwerpen}} 
>> > > } 
>> > > 
>> > > @book{schillebeeckx1964, 
>> > > title = {Christus Sacrament van de Godsontmoeting}, 
>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, 
>> > > year = {1964}, 
>> > > edition = {7de dr.}, 
>> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}}, 
>> > > address = {{Bilthoven}} 
>> > > } 
>> > > 
>> > > @book{schillebeeckx1967a, 
>> > > title = {Christus' Tegenwoordigheid in de Eucharistie}, 
>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, 
>> > > year = {1967}, 
>> > > publisher = {{Nelissen}}, 
>> > > address = {{Bilthoven}} 
>> > > } 
>> > > 
>> > > @book{schillebeeckx2005, 
>> > > title = {The {{Eucharist}}}, 
>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, 
>> > > year = {2005}, 
>> > > edition = {First published 1967}, 
>> > > publisher = {{Burns \& Oates}}, 
>> > > address = {{London}}, 
>> > > isbn = {978-0-86012-400-9}, 
>> > > keywords = {Transubstantiation}, 
>> > > lccn = {BX2220 .S3513 2005} 
>> > > } 
>> > > 
>> > > @book{schillebeeckx2014n, 
>> > > title = {Christ the Sacrament of the Encounter of {{God}}}, 
>> > > shorttitle = {Christ the {{Sacrament}}}, 
>> > > author = {Schillebeeckx, Edward}, 
>> > > year = {2014}, 
>> > > edition = {First published 1959}, 
>> > > publisher = {{Bloomsbury}}, 
>> > > address = {{London}}, 
>> > > isbn = {978-0-567-41723-7 978-1-4725-5834-3 978-1-4725-5833-6}, 
>> > > keywords = {Catholic Church,Sacraments}, 
>> > > number = {1}, 
>> > > series = {The Collected Works of {{Edward Schillebeeckx}}} 
>> > > } 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > 
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2021-05-07 20:53                     ` Tom McLean
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2021-05-08  9:02                         ` Bastien DUMONT
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2021-05-09 19:31                                                                     ` Bastien DUMONT
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