Is the usage of "longtable" hard-coded into current Pandoc?

Is the usage of "longtable" hard-coded into current Pandoc?

[kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg]

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It occurred to me that what I had thought of previously may not work:   
modifying the LaTeX template to not use `longtable`, but another package 
instead and get classoption `twocolumn` to work.

This may be because the LaTeX  "micro code" (my name for it) for tables may 
not work when simply loading a different table package. Is this assumption 
correct?

Do I indeed have to resort into writing my own raw LaTeX code if I want 
tables in two-column output?
 

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Re: Is the usage of "longtable" hard-coded into current Pandoc?

[John MacFarlane]

+++ kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org [Jul 04 15 11:41 ]:
>   It occurred to me that what I had thought of previously may not work:
>   modifying the LaTeX template to not use `longtable`, but another
>   package instead and get classoption `twocolumn` to work.
>   This may be because the LaTeX  "micro code" (my name for it) for tables
>   may not work when simply loading a different table package. Is this
>   assumption correct?

Correct, use of longtable is hard coded.  This is quite
unfortunate, and I've long been wanting a better alternative
that will work with 2-column text but also break across
pages when needed.  Haven't found one yet.

Failing that, it may be worth having an option for regular
tables.

>   Do I indeed have to resort into writing my own raw LaTeX code if I want
>   tables in two-column output?

It's probably possible to redefine the longtable environment
to something else in your preamble.

Re: Is the usage of "longtable" hard-coded into current Pandoc?

[Wagner Macedo]

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Hello John,

I also have an issue with long tables due to 'longtables' sometimes
unnecessarily split small tables (depending where you insert). So, while we
don't have a better option how about if pandoc provide an option to use
standard tabular instead of the default longtables?

--
Wagner Macedo

On 4 July 2015 at 19:26, John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> +++ kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org [Jul 04 15 11:41 ]:
>
>>   It occurred to me that what I had thought of previously may not work:
>>   modifying the LaTeX template to not use `longtable`, but another
>>   package instead and get classoption `twocolumn` to work.
>>   This may be because the LaTeX  "micro code" (my name for it) for tables
>>   may not work when simply loading a different table package. Is this
>>   assumption correct?
>>
>
> Correct, use of longtable is hard coded.  This is quite
> unfortunate, and I've long been wanting a better alternative
> that will work with 2-column text but also break across
> pages when needed.  Haven't found one yet.
>
> Failing that, it may be worth having an option for regular
> tables.
>
>    Do I indeed have to resort into writing my own raw LaTeX code if I want
>>   tables in two-column output?
>>
>
> It's probably possible to redefine the longtable environment
> to something else in your preamble.
>
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Re: Is the usage of "longtable" hard-coded into current Pandoc?

[kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg]

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As long as this is not yet implemented, maybe a little hint in the 
docu/README should be placed explaining that…

   - …Markdown tables do not work in PDF/LaTeX/Beamer output, 
   - …and will even stop to create *any* of the desired output unless the 
   Markdown table is removed altogether or replaced by appropriat raw_tex 
   table code. 

Am Sonntag, 5. Juli 2015 01:54:27 UTC+2 schrieb Wagner Macedo:

Hello John,
>
> I also have an issue with long tables due to 'longtables' sometimes 
> unnecessarily split small tables (depending where you insert). So, while we 
> don't have a better option how about if pandoc provide an option to use 
> standard tabular instead of the default longtables?
>
> --
> Wagner Macedo 
>
> On 4 July 2015 at 19:26, John MacFarlane <j...-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> +++ kurt.p...-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org <javascript:> [Jul 04 15 11:41 ]:
>>
>>>   It occurred to me that what I had thought of previously may not work:
>>>   modifying the LaTeX template to not use `longtable`, but another
>>>   package instead and get classoption `twocolumn` to work.
>>>   This may be because the LaTeX  "micro code" (my name for it) for tables
>>>   may not work when simply loading a different table package. Is this
>>>   assumption correct?
>>>
>>
>> Correct, use of longtable is hard coded.  This is quite
>> unfortunate, and I've long been wanting a better alternative
>> that will work with 2-column text but also break across
>> pages when needed.  Haven't found one yet.
>>
>> Failing that, it may be worth having an option for regular
>> tables.
>>
>>    Do I indeed have to resort into writing my own raw LaTeX code if I want
>>>   tables in two-column output?
>>>
>>
>> It's probably possible to redefine the longtable environment
>> to something else in your preamble.
>>
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Re: Is the usage of "longtable" hard-coded into current Pandoc?

[Wagner Macedo]

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I don't see what you are talking about of not implemented. Markdown tables is very well converted to latex. But unfortunately has some issues that isn't suited to every situations and I agree to maintain longtables as the default option, as the standard latex 'table' environment with 'tabular' has other issues such as not handle footnotes, not adjust columns and not split between pages.

If you can live with all these limitations I used in some of my documents a filter that I wrote in Python to read a table and write a tabular instead of longtables.

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Re: Is the usage of "longtable" hard-coded into current Pandoc?

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Wagner, you was asking *“how about if pandoc provide an option to use 
standard tabular instead of the default longtables?”* (All this is in the 
context of -V classoption:twocolumn, which I did not sufficiently emphasize 
in my comment, sorry.)

This is not implemented yet…

Or is it?!?

Thank you about your hint to your filter. :) Does Google easily find it?


Am Montag, 6. Juli 2015 06:12:14 UTC+2 schrieb Wagner Macedo:

I don't see what you are talking about of not implemented. Markdown tables 
> is very well converted to latex. But unfortunately has some issues that 
> isn't suited to every situations and I agree to maintain longtables as the 
> default option, as the standard latex 'table' environment with 'tabular' 
> has other issues such as not handle footnotes, not adjust columns and not 
> split between pages.
>
> If you can live with all these limitations I used in some of my documents 
> a filter that I wrote in Python to read a table and write a tabular instead 
> of longtables.
>
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Re: Is the usage of "longtable" hard-coded into current Pandoc?

[Wagner Macedo]

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I really don't know if this is implemented.

My filter to use tabular was sent to this thread
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/pandoc-discuss/RUC-tuu_qf0/h-H3RRVt1coJ
in this group.

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On 6 July 2015 at 10:21, <kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Wagner, you was asking *“how about if pandoc provide an option to use
> standard tabular instead of the default longtables?”* (All this is in the
> context of -V classoption:twocolumn, which I did not sufficiently
> emphasize in my comment, sorry.)
>
> This is not implemented yet…
>
> Or is it?!?
>
> Thank you about your hint to your filter. :) Does Google easily find it?
>
> ​
>
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Re: Is the usage of "longtable" hard-coded into current Pandoc?

[Richard Huntsinger]

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Yes!  We need a way to generate tabular rather longtable tables to deal 
with nested tables.  longtable does not support nested tables, tabular 
does.  Meanwhile, can you suggest some work-around to deal with nested 
tables?  

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 4:54:27 PM UTC-7 Wagner Macedo wrote:

> Hello John,
>
> I also have an issue with long tables due to 'longtables' sometimes 
> unnecessarily split small tables (depending where you insert). So, while we 
> don't have a better option how about if pandoc provide an option to use 
> standard tabular instead of the default longtables?
>
> --
> Wagner Macedo 
>
> On 4 July 2015 at 19:26, John MacFarlane <j...-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> +++ kurt.p...-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org [Jul 04 15 11:41 ]:
>>
>>>   It occurred to me that what I had thought of previously may not work:
>>>   modifying the LaTeX template to not use `longtable`, but another
>>>   package instead and get classoption `twocolumn` to work.
>>>   This may be because the LaTeX  "micro code" (my name for it) for tables
>>>   may not work when simply loading a different table package. Is this
>>>   assumption correct?
>>>
>>
>> Correct, use of longtable is hard coded.  This is quite
>> unfortunate, and I've long been wanting a better alternative
>> that will work with 2-column text but also break across
>> pages when needed.  Haven't found one yet.
>>
>> Failing that, it may be worth having an option for regular
>> tables.
>>
>>   Do I indeed have to resort into writing my own raw LaTeX code if I want
>>>   tables in two-column output?
>>>
>>
>> It's probably possible to redefine the longtable environment
>> to something else in your preamble.
>
>
>>
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Re: Is the usage of "longtable" hard-coded into current Pandoc?

[Richard Huntsinger]

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Can you provide me/us this filter to write tabular instead of longtable?  
Such a lua filter would be wonderful. 

On Sunday, July 5, 2015 at 9:12:14 PM UTC-7 Wagner Macedo wrote:

> I don't see what you are talking about of not implemented. Markdown tables 
> is very well converted to latex. But unfortunately has some issues that 
> isn't suited to every situations and I agree to maintain longtables as the 
> default option, as the standard latex 'table' environment with 'tabular' 
> has other issues such as not handle footnotes, not adjust columns and not 
> split between pages.
>
> If you can live with all these limitations I used in some of my documents 
> a filter that I wrote in Python to read a table and write a tabular instead 
> of longtables.
>

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Re: Is the usage of "longtable" hard-coded into current Pandoc?

[Richard Huntsinger]

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I've taken a look at the python code at 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/pandoc-discuss/RUC-tuu_qf0/h-H3RRVt1coJ .  
I experience the errors mentioned in the thread.  Perhaps we can get a lua 
version of the filter?

On Monday, July 6, 2015 at 7:03:21 AM UTC-7 Wagner Macedo wrote:

> I really don't know if this is implemented.
>
> My filter to use tabular was sent to this thread 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/pandoc-discuss/RUC-tuu_qf0/h-H3RRVt1coJ 
> in this group.
>
> --
> Wagner Macedo 
>
> On 6 July 2015 at 10:21, <kurt.p...-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> Wagner, you was asking *“how about if pandoc provide an option to use 
>> standard tabular instead of the default longtables?”* (All this is in 
>> the context of -V classoption:twocolumn, which I did not sufficiently 
>> emphasize in my comment, sorry.)
>>
>> This is not implemented yet…
>>
>> Or is it?!?
>>
>> Thank you about your hint to your filter. :) Does Google easily find it?
>>
>> ​
>>
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