Re: Transliterated and original titles/names in citations

[Maria Shinoto <maria.shinoto-7M2J4GrLiDedPOQpRHQ53DeJuz7u0hKX@public.gmane.org>]

This exactly my scenario. I have transscriptions from Japanese into Chinese or Western Scripts (several transcriptive systems), and of course, sorting is a problem. But until now I could solve all this with a Biblatex database that is tailored to my own needs with very many extra fields -- I do not fill them all but only if needed -- that I export with different fields into a standard Bibtex database that works for a certain publication, and with Biber, all sorting etc. worked just as needed. 

Unfortunately, at the moment this is not my workflow, but I will return to that this year again and hope to be able to explain this in more detail as well as perhaps set up some rules that work beyond my special needs in East Asia. But I am sure you could solve your problem with this approach easily and certainly with more expertise than I do.  

> Am 07.09.2019 um 19:05 schrieb BPJ <melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:
> 
> I just realized two things which make matters much worse:
> 
> 1.  Not all publications accept the same transliteration schemes. Just by surveying one author's references to his own works in one bibliography I find that his surname, Яблонский, can be transliterated in five different ways (although two predominate)! So I'll need both a `transliterated title` field and a field `transliterated authors` field with (in each item) a mapping of alternative transliterations. Even Icelandic needs to be transliterated sometimes, e.g. Þórður becoming Thórdur (with data loss!)
> 
> 2. Sorting. Latin letters like _č, š,  ž_ need to sort as _c, s, z_ and probably _Þ_ must sometimes sort like _Th_ and sometimes after _z_! This needs sometimes tailored locale dependent sorting! Accented letters can ideally be handled by entering things in NFC and hoping that sort algorithms ignore combining marks, but then e.g. in Scandinavian languages _ö_ sorts not as _o_ but at the end of the alphabet (ideally _þ, æ, ø, å, ä, ö_ go at the end of the alphabet in that order, but often _æ/ä, ø/ö_ are conflated either before or after _å_!). Anyway it seems CSL has no customizable sort key field. I know how to handle these things myself with [Unicode::Collate][] but that at least means some postprocessing of as yet unknown complexity.
> 
> Den ons 4 sep. 2019 09:33BPJ <melroch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:
> Does anyone know how to handle transliterated titles and names in 
> citations, when you want to include both the transliteration and the 
> original? Does CSL have any fields for that?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> /bpj
> 
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