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From this one data point, the JSON overhead seems to be *quite*=20 substantial. I guess I will look into Lua filters then=E2=80=A6 Leo On 31 May 2023, at 8:53, John MacFarlane wrote: > See the chart at the beginning of the Lua filters documentation for=20 > one data point. > > >> On May 30, 2023, at 3:46 PM, Oliver =20 >> wrote: >> >> Thanks for this, John. >> >> Do you know, is the performance hit big? Or nothing really to worry? >> >> Regards, >> Olli >> >> On 30 May 2023, at 4:18, John MacFarlane wrote: >> >>> Because JSON filters involve serializing the Haskell data structure=20 >>> to JSON, then decoding that back to a Haskell data structure,=20 >>> modifying it, encoding it to JSON, and decoding it back. 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Thanks for the pointer, John.

From this one data point, the JSON overhead seems to be quite substantial.

I guess I will look into Lua filters then=E2=80=A6

Leo

On 31 May 2023, at 8:53, John MacFarlane wrote:

See the chart at the beginning of the Lua= filters documentation for one data point.

= On May 30, 2023, at 3:46 PM, Oliver <news-WPTjrydoUPgeaOpM6FAJmQkbCANdLtlA@public.gmane.org> wrot= e:

Thanks for this, John.

Do you know, is the performance hit big? Or nothing really = to worry?

Regards,
Olli

On 30 May 2023, at 4:18, John MacFarlane wrote:

= Because JSON filters involve serializing the Haskell data structure to JSON= , then decoding that back to a Haskell data structure, modifying it, encodi= ng it to JSON, and decoding it back. The Lua interface avoids all of this = serialization/deserialization.

= On May 29, 2023, at 12:46 AM, oliver <news-WPTjrydoUPgeaOpM6FAJmQkbCANdLtlA@public.gmane.org> wro= te:

Hi there

The doco says Lua filters =E2=80=9Care usually faster than = JSON filters=E2=80=9D and from my understanding Haskell filters are JSON fi= lters.

So why are filters in Pandoc=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9Cnative=E2= =80=9D language slower than filters in Lua?

Thanks for clarification!
Olli

On 29 May 2023, at 11:03, Michael Milton wrote:

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