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From: "ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org" <ivo.welch-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: powerpoint output to 169 format?
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 10:36:35 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <34686c0e-c90a-4d27-82ed-28e950548c04n@googlegroups.com> (raw)
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I just found out by experimentation in macos PowerPoint 16.56 (2021, 
Microsoft 365 subscription) something really strange.

Put the cursor on any of the bullet points, and you see that the bullet 
text is all 32pt.

However, if you now type a single character, all bullet points change 
instantly from 32pt to 22pt.

This has to be a bug somewhere...

> pandoc --reference-doc ~/.pandoc/templates/default.pptx -s -t pptx 
bullet-points.md -o bullet-points.pptx

and

---
title: "test bullets"
author: "me"
---

# Simple Slide

* 1 bullet
* 2 bullets
* 3 bullets
* 4 bullets
* 5 bullets
* 6 bullets
* 7 bullets
* 8 bullets
* 9 bullets

# Another slide

On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 6:31:25 PM UTC-8 John MacFarlane wrote:

>
> I just tried it, and I got eight bullets on the screen.
> Font size seems to be around 24pt. I think Powerpoint
> scaled it automatically when I changed the aspect ratio.
>
> "ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org" <ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> > apologies for all the comments. I am guessing that the 16:9 format is 
> > useful only if you / one can also change the defaults for the PowerPoint 
> > font sizes.
> >
> > on PowerPoint macos, the default 16:9 font size for first-level bullet 
> > points seems to be Calibri 28pt. This means the default vanilla 
> > presentation has 8-9 lines of bullet points.
> >
> > on pandoc, the output default font-size for first-level bullet points is 
> > Calibri 32pt.
> >
> > - in 4:3, pandoc thus also has about 8-9 lines of bullet points;
> > - in 169, the font remains the same 32pt, which now means only 6-7 lines 
> > of bullet points.
> >
> > 6-7 lines is too few IMHO. Ergo, 16:9 output should go with slightly 
> > smaller fonts. For reference, the powerpoint defaults that I am getting 
> are
> >
> > - title: 60pt
> > - subtitle: 24pt
> > - header title: 44pt, Light
> > - body points, level 1: 28pt
> > - body points, level 2: 24pt
> >
> > regards, /iaw
> >
> >
> > On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 2:01:21 PM UTC-8 ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I tried to change the default font size in the default (reference) 
> pptx, 
> >> but pandoc did not pick this one up. :-(
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 1:37:39 PM UTC-8 ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> mille grazie.
> >>>
> >>> given that powerpoint itself has moved to 16:9, I think it would 
> probably 
> >>> be a better default.
> >>>
> >>> the template trick is supercool. I had not realized this. I will try 
> to 
> >>> stick a modified version into my .pandoc/templates folder. Is there a 
> >>> standard name (like default.pptx) that pandoc picks up?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Saturday, December 18, 2021 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-8 John MacFarlane 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> You can change this by using a reference-doc. 
> >>>>
> >>>> pandoc --print-default-data-file reference.pptx > reference.pptx 
> >>>>
> >>>> Now open reference.pptx with Powerpoint. 
> >>>>
> >>>> Go to Page Setup and change the aspect ratio. 
> >>>>
> >>>> Save. 
> >>>>
> >>>> Now use 
> >>>>
> >>>> pandoc --reference-doc reference.pptx input.md -o output.pptx 
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe we should change the default to 16:9. Comments welcome on 
> >>>> this. 
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-03 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-18 16:59 ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org
     [not found] ` <e8eca892-c1f2-4209-9934-b679a5d93978n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2021-12-18 19:44   ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]     ` <m24k757l6n.fsf-d8241O7hbXoP5tpWdHSM3tPlBySK3R6THiGdP5j34PU@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-02 21:37       ` ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org
     [not found]         ` <1ed43dcc-b0ae-469e-a3c1-590b5eea0d33n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-02 22:01           ` ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org
     [not found]             ` <94f00f2b-6407-4811-a5fb-250f4858d774n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-02 23:00               ` ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org
     [not found]                 ` <b9f2c295-a355-4bdc-90a7-58cd61694854n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-03  2:30                   ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                     ` <m2fsq51rg0.fsf-jF64zX8BO0+FqBokazbCQ6OPv3vYUT2dxr7GGTnW70NeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-03 18:36                       ` ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <34686c0e-c90a-4d27-82ed-28e950548c04n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-03 18:54                           ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                             ` <m2h7aklkfc.fsf-jF64zX8BO0+FqBokazbCQ6OPv3vYUT2dxr7GGTnW70NeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2022-01-04 17:34                               ` ivo....-xwz7R8GQi1g@public.gmane.org
2022-01-02 22:59           ` John MacFarlane

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