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I was wondering why footnotes show a backlink to the original text when I= =20 display the document in calibre, and why they do not when I display the=20 document on a kobo reader... ... until I found the backlink is indeed well present. It is "just" not=20 displayed by kobo because the character set (by pandoc, I think) has no=20 rendering on their font. The backlink character, copied and pasted from the .epub document itself,= =20 seems to be "=E2=86=A9=EF=B8=8E". I see two possible tricks here so that the link will appear on kobo : 1. Change the character to another one that would be rendered by kobo. 2. Change the default font of the document to one that has rendering for=20 that character. I have tried all available fonts on my device. There are actually three=20 classes of them. (Listing them all below, this might be of interest to somebody in the=20 future) Avenir Next ; Georgia ; Kobo Nickel : these fonts render absolutely nothing= =20 for that character, leading the human to believe the backlink does not=20 exist. It is present, clickable, just not rendered. Amasis ; Caecilia ; Gill Sans ; Malabar ; OpenDislexic : these fonts render= =20 "__" for that character. I find it "better" than the first family, but=20 still not great. It is not obvious for a non-tehnical human that this is a= =20 backlink to the text. AR UDJingxihei ; Kobo UD Kakugo ; Kobo Tsukishi Mincho : display oriental= =20 character (I think this is chinese / japanese depending on font) for the=20 backlink character. Therefore, I tend to favor the first solution. Do you guys know of a way to= =20 customize the "backlink =E2=86=A9=EF=B8=8E" character set by pandoc in epub= ? Or is there a third approach ? Thanks, Vincent --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/= pandoc-discuss/349480b0-92cd-450f-abc0-f3d65140d23cn%40googlegroups.com. ------=_Part_221_880022149.1632209666653 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

I am generating epub3 from latex source.
I= was wondering why footnotes show a backlink to the original text when I di= splay the document in calibre, and why they do not when I display the docum= ent on a kobo reader...

... until I found the back= link is indeed well present. It is "just" not displayed by kobo because the= character set (by pandoc, I think) has no rendering on their font.

The backlink character, copied and pasted from the .epub = document itself, seems to be "=E2=86=A9=EF=B8=8E".

I see two possible tricks here so that the link will appear on kobo :
1. Change the character to another one that would be rendered by kobo= .
2. Change the default font of the document to one that has rend= ering for that character.

I have tried all availab= le fonts on my device. There are actually three classes of them.
= (Listing them all below, this might be of interest to somebody in the futur= e)

Avenir Next ; Georgia ; Kobo Nickel : these fon= ts render absolutely nothing for that character, leading the human to belie= ve the backlink does not exist. It is present, clickable, just not rendered= .

Amasis ; Caecilia ; Gill Sans ; Malabar ; OpenDi= slexic : these fonts render "__" for that character. I find it "better" tha= n the first family, but still not great. It is not obvious for a non-tehnic= al human that this is a backlink to the text.

AR U= DJingxihei ; Kobo UD Kakugo ; Kobo Tsukishi Mincho : display oriental chara= cter (I think this is chinese / japanese depending on font) for the backlin= k character.


Therefore, I tend to f= avor the first solution. Do you guys know of a way to customize the "backli= nk =E2=86=A9=EF=B8=8E" character set by pandoc in epub ?
Or is th= ere a third approach ?

Thanks,

Vincent

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