Re: ignorenonframetext in default.latex

[Paul Gesting <folofjc-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>]

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Hi John,

I am using 2.11.2 on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and it adds it, as you saw. I created 
two issues: One for the feature request 
<https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/7857> and one for the documentation 
<https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/7856>.

Thanks again for all your help and for how incredibly useful pandoc is!

On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 8:54:00 PM UTC+1 John MacFarlane wrote:

>
> Scratch that...I see now that it does create the extra
> slide.
>
> Well, I think we can fix that. If you submit an issue
> on our GitHub tracker, it will help me keep track.
> And mention in the issue that the manual needs to
> be updated to reflect that speaker notes work with
> beamer, too.
>
> John MacFarlane <j...-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> > It didn't add a frame for me when I tried it...
> > Are you using an up-to-date pandoc?
> >
> > Paul Gesting <fol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
> >
> >> Hi John,
> >>
> >> Thanks for the quick reply! That was one of the first things I tried. 
> The 
> >> ::: notes block does the exact same thing as simply \note{...}. Both of 
> >> them add a frame. Sorry, I wasn't very clear in my tex.se question, 
> but the 
> >> reason I put both the ::: notes block and the \note{...} command was to 
> >> show that both give the exact same result in the .text file that I 
> showed.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> paul
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 6:55:43 PM UTC+1 John MacFarlane 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> What happens if you do this (with current pandoc)?
> >>>
> >>> % pandoc -t beamer -s -o my.pdf --slide-level=2
> >>> # Hi
> >>>
> >>> ::: notes
> >>> note
> >>> :::
> >>>
> >>> ## Slide
> >>>
> >>> ok
> >>> ^D
> >>>
> >>> When I tried this, I did not get an extra page after the section
> >>> heading "Hi". (But I'm not sure how to view the notes with
> >>> beamer.)
> >>>
> >>> Actually, the manual says that "notes" divs are only supported
> >>> for powerpoint and reveal.js. This seems wrong, because beamer
> >>> does now seem to support them. So perhaps the manual needs
> >>> updating? But how do you actually use the speaker notes with
> >>> beamer?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Paul Gesting <fol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
> >>>
> >>> > I actually have a use case where I would like text under a section 
> title 
> >>> to 
> >>> > be outside of a frame. See the question I posted here 
> >>> > <
> >>> 
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/630390/add-a-beamer-note-to-a-section-slide-using-pandoc-and-markdown
> >>> >
> >>> > .
> >>> >
> >>> > Basically, if I want to add a note to a section title, I do not want 
> a 
> >>> > blank frame to be added for the note. I want the note on the section 
> >>> frame. 
> >>> > Is this still possible after the change that is cited above?
> >>> >
> >>> > On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 11:04:16 PM UTC+2 
> thomas....-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org 
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Here is something that would be different after the change:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> A md like this:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> ```
> >>> >> # Foo
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Foo
> >>> >>
> >>> >> ## Bar
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Bar
> >>> >> ```
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The command: `$ pandoc --slide-level=2 -t beamer -o test.tex 
> test.md` 
> >>> >> produces LaTeX where there is text ('Foo') outside of a frame. If 
> >>> >> ignorefametext is removed from the template, doing $ pandoc 
> >>> --slide-level=2 
> >>> >> -t beamer -o test.pdf test.md` would give different results, i.e., 
> >>> 'Foo' 
> >>> >> would now be printed on a new slide after the section, rather than 
> not 
> >>> >> appearing at all.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Sunday, 13 September 2020 at 22:26:02 UTC+2 Thomas Hodgson wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> Is there a case where it would be expected that something would be 
> >>> >>> written outside a frame, and that it should be ignored?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> I have checked the modified template with sections, and with 
> >>> subsections, 
> >>> >>> and without either.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Sunday, 13 September 2020 at 21:23:19 UTC+2 John MacFarlane 
> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> We used to ignore stuff outside of frames. 
> >>> >>>> However, this changed with 
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> 
> >>> 
> https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/commit/f431f67b2f2f5071345fa5800658375afaf44c1b 
> >>> >>>> (somewhat controversially) 
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> It may be that after this commit, removing ignorenonframetext 
> >>> >>>> would be okay. Maybe someone can test that out (with a lot of 
> >>> >>>> different cases, please). 
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Thomas Hodgson <thomas....-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes: 
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> > The default.latex template uses the 'ignorenonframetext' for 
> >>> Beamer. 
> >>> >>>> Is 
> >>> >>>> > there a good reason for this? If that was removed from the 
> >>> template, 
> >>> >>>> there 
> >>> >>>> > would be no need to handle making titles differently for beamer 
> and 
> >>> >>>> other 
> >>> >>>> > formats, i.e., it could be done with `\maketitle` in both 
> cases. I 
> >>> >>>> think 
> >>> >>>> > that that's better when using themes that treat a title slide 
> >>> >>>> differently 
> >>> >>>> > from ordinary slides (such as Metropolis). 
> >>> >>>> > 
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