l geminada

l geminada

[Eloi Torrents]

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Hello, how can I type an "l geminada" ( l·l ) in markdown with pandoc?

I attach my attempt and the output which contains unwanted spaces between 
the dot.
In latex there is the command \lgem, how can I use it in pandoc?

Thank you

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Re: l geminada

[Eloi Torrents]

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I couldn't attach the source... I'm sorry for the 2 messages. 
https://pastebin.com/vp487K3v

On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 11:30:54 PM UTC+2 Eloi Torrents wrote:

> Hello, how can I type an "l geminada" ( l·l ) in markdown with pandoc?
>
> I attach my attempt and the output which contains unwanted spaces between 
> the dot.
> In latex there is the command \lgem, how can I use it in pandoc?
>
> Thank you
>

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Re: l geminada

[BPJ]

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What do you get if you convert your source markdown to LaTeX? `pandoc -o
output.ltx source.md`? (Copy and paste it into the reply message.)

Also try with --pdf-engine=xelatex option. I can't try ATM but I have
typeset the middle dot (in Old Occitan, e.g. _que·l_, contraction of _que
lo_) with XeLaTeX before and never had a problem. It would surprise me if
LaTeX acts up just because the character on either side is _l_ — I would
rather expect the opposite!

Den mån 12 sep. 2022 23:35Eloi Torrents <eloi.torrentsj-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> skrev:

> I couldn't attach the source... I'm sorry for the 2 messages.
> https://pastebin.com/vp487K3v
>
> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 11:30:54 PM UTC+2 Eloi Torrents wrote:
>
>> Hello, how can I type an "l geminada" ( l·l ) in markdown with pandoc?
>>
>> I attach my attempt and the output which contains unwanted spaces between
>> the dot.
>> In latex there is the command \lgem, how can I use it in pandoc?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
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Re: l geminada

[Pablo Rodríguez]

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On 9/12/22 23:30, Eloi Torrents wrote:
> Hello, how can I type an "l geminada" ( l·l ) in markdown with pandoc?

Hi Eloi,

Unicode seems to have a character for that (in fact,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ŀ redirects to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpunct#Catalan).

> I attach my attempt and the output which contains unwanted spaces
> between the dot.
> In latex there is the command \lgem, how can I use it in pandoc?

I attach the output for the following ConTeXt source, comparing both
with and without the Unicode fix:

  \starttext
    \startTEXpage[offset=1em, align=middle]
      cel·la\\
      ceŀla
      \stopTEXpage
  \stoptext

I think that "ceŀla" may be what you intend.

Just in case it might help,

Pablo

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Re: l geminada

[Eloi Torrents]

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If I run `pandoc lgem.md -o lgem.ltx` I get:

\hypertarget{pelluxedcules}{%
\section{Pel·lícules}\label{pelluxedcules}}

I think it is a problem of the font, I tried adding
---
fontfamily : dejavu 
---
on the header of the markdown document. Now I got the error:

$ pandoc lgem.md -o lgem.pdf

kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+0/600 --dpi 600 
DejaVuSerif-tlf-t1--base
mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for DejaVuSerif-tlf-t1--base.
mktexpk: perhaps DejaVuSerif-tlf-t1--base is missing from the map file.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.

kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+0/600 --dpi 600 
DejaVuSerif-tlf-t1--base
mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for DejaVuSerif-tlf-t1--base.
mktexpk: perhaps DejaVuSerif-tlf-t1--base is missing from the map file.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
Error producing PDF.
!pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file DejaVuSerif-tlf-t1--base): Font 
DejaVuSerif-tlf-t
1--base at 600 not found
 ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

I'm on void linux, I have dejavu-fonts-ttf and texlive-fontsextra installd. 
How can I check if I'm missing some important package?

Using xelatex I don't get the error, but the output is still spaced.

Thank you for the proposal of using "ŀ", I'll use it for now, but I would 
like to not have any problem with "l·l".

Eloi


On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 4:13:24 PM UTC+2 ousia wrote:

> On 9/12/22 23:30, Eloi Torrents wrote:
> > Hello, how can I type an "l geminada" ( l·l ) in markdown with pandoc?
>
> Hi Eloi,
>
> Unicode seems to have a character for that (in fact,
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ŀ redirects to
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpunct#Catalan).
>
> > I attach my attempt and the output which contains unwanted spaces
> > between the dot.
> > In latex there is the command \lgem, how can I use it in pandoc?
>
> I attach the output for the following ConTeXt source, comparing both
> with and without the Unicode fix:
>
> \starttext
> \startTEXpage[offset=1em, align=middle]
> cel·la\\
> ceŀla
> \stopTEXpage
> \stoptext
>
> I think that "ceŀla" may be what you intend.
>
> Just in case it might help,
>
> Pablo
>

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Re: l geminada

[Pablo Rodríguez]

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On 9/13/22 17:28, Eloi Torrents wrote:
> If I run `pandoc lgem.md -o lgem.ltx` I get:
>
> \hypertarget{pelluxedcules}{%
> \section{Pel·lícules}\label{pelluxedcules}}
>
> I think it is a problem of the font, I tried adding
>
> I'm on void linux, I have dejavu-fonts-ttf and texlive-fontsextra
> installd. How can I check if I'm missing some important package?

Sorry, but last time I used pdflatex it was (almost) two decades ago.
Its updated version is called lualatex.

> Using xelatex I don't get the error, but the output is still spaced.
>
> Thank you for the proposal of using "ŀ", I'll use it for now, but I
> would like to not have any problem with "l·l".

In that case, you could use the following (sorry, ConTeXt source, since
I don’t use LaTeX [but read below]):

  \startluacode
  fonts.handlers.otf.addfeature {
  name = "liga",
  type = "ligature",
  data = {
      ['ŀ'] = { "l", "·" },
      ['Ŀ'] = { "L", "·" },
    }
  }
  \stopluacode

  \setupbodyfont[termes, 48pt]

  \starttext
  \startTEXpage[offset=1em, align=middle]
    cel·la
    ceŀla\\
    CEL·LA
    CEĿLA\\
    \feature[+][smallcaps]
    cel·la
    ceŀla
    \stopTEXpage
  \stoptext

It works only for LuaTeX. https://tex.stackexchange.com/q/312154
explains how to use this in LuaLaTeX.

Copy right after "\usepackage{fontspec}" in your LaTeX source (I have no
idea on how to add this automatically when converting Markdown sources):

  \directlua {
    fonts.handlers.otf.addfeature {
    name = "liga",
    type = "ligature",
    data = {
        ['ŀ'] = { "l", "·" },
        ['Ŀ'] = { "L", "·" },
      }
    }
  }

BTW, as showed in the PDF document, this won’t work with small caps
(either OT feature, or special font).

Just in case it might help,

Pablo

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AW: l geminada

[denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0]

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> Von: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-
> discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> Im Auftrag von Pablo Rodríguez
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. September 2022 19:47
> An: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> Betreff: Re: l geminada
> > 
> Copy right after "\usepackage{fontspec}" in your LaTeX source (I have no
> idea on how to add this automatically when converting Markdown sources):
> 
>   \directlua {
>     fonts.handlers.otf.addfeature {
>     name = "liga",
>     type = "ligature",
>     data = {
>         ['ŀ'] = { "l", "·" },
>         ['Ŀ'] = { "L", "·" },
>       }
>     }
>   }
> 

You'll need a custom template for this. Or maybe use the `header-includes` feature.

Best,
Denis

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