* Smart seems not the same of --smart
@ 2017-12-09 18:15 Mario Valle
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From: Mario Valle @ 2017-12-09 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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In 1.19.2.1 I was using --smart in the conversion from docx to markdown.
Now with 2.0.4 I don't know how to use the smart extension to have the same
effect, that is, to convert normal quotes into smart ones. Here is my
command line:
pandoc -f docx --atx-headers --wrap=none --extract-media=. -t markdown
MyFile.docx
The input docx file contains normal quotes and three dots from a paste of a
text file (example attached). It contains also normal smart quotes
introduced by Word.
if I use -t markdown-smart everything remains as is in the docx file.
Instead using -t markdown or -t markdown+smart , as documented, changes
"aa" to \"aa\" and smart quotes to normal quotes. Also, as documented,
adding +smart to docx has no effect.
Can someone enlighten me how to ask pandoc to change normal quotes to smart
ones?
Thanks!
mario
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* Re: Smart seems not the same of --smart
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@ 2017-12-10 3:42 ` Mario Valle
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From: Mario Valle @ 2017-12-10 3:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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smart works going in the other direction from markdown to docx:
pandoc -f markdown+smart -o ex2.docx ex.md
Besides devising a monster pipeline (docx -> md | md+smart -> docx | docx
-> md-smart)
is there other ways to convert normal to smart quotes?
Thanks for looking!
mario
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* Re: Smart seems not the same of --smart
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@ 2017-12-10 18:36 ` John MacFarlane
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2017-12-12 9:36 ` BP Jonsson
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From: John MacFarlane @ 2017-12-10 18:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
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+smart doesn't affect the docx reader at all. Jesse
Rosenthal might be able to say more about this decision, but
I imagine it's because Word already has a smart quote
feature, converting straight to curly quotes on the fly, so
the assumption is that straight quotes are there because
they're wanted (like an escaped \" in markdown).
+++ Mario Valle [Dec 09 17 19:42 ]:
> smart works going in the other direction from markdown to docx:
> pandoc -f markdown+smart -o ex2.docx ex.md
> Besides devising a monster pipeline (docx -> md | md+smart -> docx |
> docx -> md-smart)
> is there other ways to convert normal to smart quotes?
> Thanks for looking!
> mario
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* Re: Smart seems not the same of --smart
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From: siliconvalley58-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w @ 2017-12-11 9:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw, John MacFarlane
Now understand. Thanks!
Seems mine is a misplaced expectation.
Could I promote the issue to feature request?
Something like an extension called force-smart that converts every quote
and every ... to the typographic form.
It is quite common for me to find non-typographic sign in Word documents
due to pasting a plain text to Word.
Thanks again
mario
On 10-Dec-17 19:36, John MacFarlane wrote:
> +smart doesn't affect the docx reader at all. Jesse
> Rosenthal might be able to say more about this decision, but
> I imagine it's because Word already has a smart quote
> feature, converting straight to curly quotes on the fly, so
> the assumption is that straight quotes are there because
> they're wanted (like an escaped \" in markdown).
>
> +++ Mario Valle [Dec 09 17 19:42 ]:
>> smart works going in the other direction from markdown to docx:
>> pandoc -f markdown+smart -o ex2.docx ex.md
>> Besides devising a monster pipeline (docx -> md | md+smart -> docx |
>> docx -> md-smart)
>> is there other ways to convert normal to smart quotes?
>> Thanks for looking!
>> mario
>>
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* Re: Smart seems not the same of --smart
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@ 2017-12-11 15:37 ` John MacFarlane
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From: John MacFarlane @ 2017-12-11 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
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+++ siliconvalley58-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org [Dec 11 17 10:36 ]:
>Now understand. Thanks!
>Seems mine is a misplaced expectation.
>
>Could I promote the issue to feature request?
>Something like an extension called force-smart that converts every
>quote and every ... to the typographic form.
>It is quite common for me to find non-typographic sign in Word
>documents due to pasting a plain text to Word.
If the maintainer of the docx reader wants to add support
for the `smart` extension, that could be done. One wouldn't
need a new extension. But I'm not sure it's worth it.
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* Re: Smart seems not the same of --smart
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2017-12-10 18:36 ` John MacFarlane
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I have found, long before 2.0, that going via Markdown
```
pandoc -f FORMAT1 -t markdown <INPUT | pandoc -f markdown -t FORMAT2 >OUTPUT
```
generally gives better results when converting between two non-Markdown
formats. I have no idea why this is so though.
Den 10 dec 2017 04:42 skrev "Mario Valle" <siliconvalley58-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:
> smart works going in the other direction from markdown to docx:
> pandoc -f markdown+smart -o ex2.docx ex.md
> Besides devising a monster pipeline (docx -> md | md+smart -> docx | docx
> -> md-smart)
> is there other ways to convert normal to smart quotes?
> Thanks for looking!
> mario
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