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I'm still wondering whether interpreting these lists as paragraphs would be an improvement over the current situation. It also breaks the structure to some extent. In any case, someone who wants to render these lists correctly will have to add a custom style. On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 6:50:08 PM UTC+2 John MacFarlane wrote: > > > with a third solution. The main drawback was that these lists without > > markers > > are often used to add paragraphs in a list item without visually adding > a > > new > > list element or ending the list. By using paragraphs, we would visually > end > > the > > list. My solution to this is to add the list items without markers as > > paragraphs to the last item of the list immediately before if there is > one. > > I don't really like this, because it modifies the structure, and > pandoc is about preserving structure. Conceptually, these items > aren't children of the last list item with a marker, even they > render similarly. Besides, what if the entire list consists > of these unmarked items, and there isn't a marked item to put > them under? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/3b5da2fc-5a6e-46b0-a248-3070e754382en%40googlegroups.com. ------=_Part_495_896515211.1622018433917 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, I understand. I'm still wondering whether interpreting these lists as p= aragraphs
would be an improvement over the current situation. It also br= eaks the structure to
some extent. In any case, someone who wants t= o render these lists correctly will
have to add a custom style.
O= n Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 6:50:08 PM UTC+2 John MacFarlane wrote:

> with a third solution. The main drawback was that these lists with= out=20
> markers
> are often used to add paragraphs in a list item without visually a= dding a=20
> new
> list element or ending the list. By using paragraphs, we would vis= ually end=20
> the
> list. My solution to this is to add the list items without markers= as
> paragraphs to the last item of the list immediately before if ther= e is one.=20

I don't really like this, because it modifies the structure, and
pandoc is about preserving structure. Conceptually, these items
aren't children of the last list item with a marker, even they
render similarly. Besides, what if the entire list consists
of these unmarked items, and there isn't a marked item to put
them under?

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