Installing new tarball over old?

Installing new tarball over old?

[H]

I found I have pandoc 2.19.2 installed on my CentOS 7 system, installed as a tarball. The latest version is 3.1.2.

Do I need to uninstall the old version before unpacking the most recent tarball or can I simply install over the old version and any old "cruft" will be removed during installation?

Re: Installing new tarball over old?

[ThomasH]

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As there are so many possibilities to install some files on a system, 
depending on questions like whether you want to make a system-wide or user 
installation etc., I think it is impossible to give a general answer. If 
you are the only user on the system I would leave the existing system-wide 
(I presume) 2.19.2 installation alone, to not mess with the CentOS package 
management, unpack the 3.1.2 tarball in a suitable path under my HOME and 
link to the binaries from `~/bin` which is on my PATH.

On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 8:56:53 PM UTC+2 H wrote:

> I found I have pandoc 2.19.2 installed on my CentOS 7 system, installed as 
> a tarball. The latest version is 3.1.2.
>
> Do I need to uninstall the old version before unpacking the most recent 
> tarball or can I simply install over the old version and any old "cruft" 
> will be removed during installation?
>
>

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Re: Installing new tarball over old?

[H]

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On 05/17/2023 01:28 AM, ThomasH wrote:
> As there are so many possibilities to install some files on a system, depending on questions like whether you want to make a system-wide or user installation etc., I think it is impossible to give a general answer. If you are the only user on the system I would leave the existing system-wide (I presume) 2.19.2 installation alone, to not mess with the CentOS package management, unpack the 3.1.2 tarball in a suitable path under my HOME and link to the binaries from `~/bin` which is on my PATH.
>
> On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 8:56:53 PM UTC+2 H wrote:
>
>     I found I have pandoc 2.19.2 installed on my CentOS 7 system, installed as a tarball. The latest version is 3.1.2.
>
>     Do I need to uninstall the old version before unpacking the most recent tarball or can I simply install over the old version and any old "cruft" will be removed during installation?
>
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Well, that begs the question: how to uninstall pandoc from a system, regardless of whether it is installed system-wide or for an individual user? My installation of 2.19.2 was not done using yum (in which case I could simply have used yum to remove it) but installed as a tarball downloaded from the pandoc github repository.

If I could uninstall the current, old version, I could then install the current version. How do you update your pandoc installation on your computer when a new release becomes available?

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Re: Installing new tarball over old?

[ThomasH]

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If you have the access rights, just delete the old installation. I 
personally prefer side-by-side installations so I can switch between them 
(at least for some time).

On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 10:52:15 PM UTC+2 H wrote:

> On 05/17/2023 01:28 AM, ThomasH wrote:
>
> As there are so many possibilities to install some files on a system, 
> depending on questions like whether you want to make a system-wide or user 
> installation etc., I think it is impossible to give a general answer. If 
> you are the only user on the system I would leave the existing system-wide 
> (I presume) 2.19.2 installation alone, to not mess with the CentOS package 
> management, unpack the 3.1.2 tarball in a suitable path under my HOME and 
> link to the binaries from `~/bin` which is on my PATH.
>
> On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 8:56:53 PM UTC+2 H wrote:
>
>> I found I have pandoc 2.19.2 installed on my CentOS 7 system, installed 
>> as a tarball. The latest version is 3.1.2. 
>>
>> Do I need to uninstall the old version before unpacking the most recent 
>> tarball or can I simply install over the old version and any old "cruft" 
>> will be removed during installation? 
>>
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> .
>
> Well, that begs the question: how to uninstall pandoc from a system, 
> regardless of whether it is installed system-wide or for an individual 
> user? My installation of 2.19.2 was not done using yum (in which case I 
> could simply have used yum to remove it) but installed as a tarball 
> downloaded from the pandoc github repository.
>
> If I could uninstall the current, old version, I could then install the 
> current version. How do you update your pandoc installation on your 
> computer when a new release becomes available?
>

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Re: Installing new tarball over old?

[H]

On May 19, 2023 3:34:24 AM EDT, ThomasH <therch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>If you have the access rights, just delete the old installation. I 
>personally prefer side-by-side installations so I can switch between
>them 
>(at least for some time).
>
>On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 10:52:15 PM UTC+2 H wrote:
>
>> On 05/17/2023 01:28 AM, ThomasH wrote:
>>
>> As there are so many possibilities to install some files on a system,
>
>> depending on questions like whether you want to make a system-wide or
>user 
>> installation etc., I think it is impossible to give a general answer.
>If 
>> you are the only user on the system I would leave the existing
>system-wide 
>> (I presume) 2.19.2 installation alone, to not mess with the CentOS
>package 
>> management, unpack the 3.1.2 tarball in a suitable path under my HOME
>and 
>> link to the binaries from `~/bin` which is on my PATH.
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 8:56:53 PM UTC+2 H wrote:
>>
>>> I found I have pandoc 2.19.2 installed on my CentOS 7 system,
>installed 
>>> as a tarball. The latest version is 3.1.2. 
>>>
>>> Do I need to uninstall the old version before unpacking the most
>recent 
>>> tarball or can I simply install over the old version and any old
>"cruft" 
>>> will be removed during installation? 
>>>
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>
>>
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>> .
>>
>> Well, that begs the question: how to uninstall pandoc from a system, 
>> regardless of whether it is installed system-wide or for an
>individual 
>> user? My installation of 2.19.2 was not done using yum (in which case
>I 
>> could simply have used yum to remove it) but installed as a tarball 
>> downloaded from the pandoc github repository.
>>
>> If I could uninstall the current, old version, I could then install
>the 
>> current version. How do you update your pandoc installation on your 
>> computer when a new release becomes available?
>>

I have the access rights but how do I find all the files that need to be deleted?

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Re: Installing new tarball over old?

[H]

On May 19, 2023 8:43:51 PM EDT, H <agents-FcZObrvlYduBUy7/sJONFg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>On May 19, 2023 3:34:24 AM EDT, ThomasH <therch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>If you have the access rights, just delete the old installation. I 
>>personally prefer side-by-side installations so I can switch between
>>them 
>>(at least for some time).
>>
>>On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 10:52:15 PM UTC+2 H wrote:
>>
>>> On 05/17/2023 01:28 AM, ThomasH wrote:
>>>
>>> As there are so many possibilities to install some files on a
>system,
>>
>>> depending on questions like whether you want to make a system-wide
>or
>>user 
>>> installation etc., I think it is impossible to give a general
>answer.
>>If 
>>> you are the only user on the system I would leave the existing
>>system-wide 
>>> (I presume) 2.19.2 installation alone, to not mess with the CentOS
>>package 
>>> management, unpack the 3.1.2 tarball in a suitable path under my
>HOME
>>and 
>>> link to the binaries from `~/bin` which is on my PATH.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 8:56:53 PM UTC+2 H wrote:
>>>
>>>> I found I have pandoc 2.19.2 installed on my CentOS 7 system,
>>installed 
>>>> as a tarball. The latest version is 3.1.2. 
>>>>
>>>> Do I need to uninstall the old version before unpacking the most
>>recent 
>>>> tarball or can I simply install over the old version and any old
>>"cruft" 
>>>> will be removed during installation? 
>>>>
>>>> -- 
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>>>
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>>
>>>
>><https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/0670a3f2-69f7-4a91-b6b5-145511c273ebn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
>>> .
>>>
>>> Well, that begs the question: how to uninstall pandoc from a system,
>
>>> regardless of whether it is installed system-wide or for an
>>individual 
>>> user? My installation of 2.19.2 was not done using yum (in which
>case
>>I 
>>> could simply have used yum to remove it) but installed as a tarball 
>>> downloaded from the pandoc github repository.
>>>
>>> If I could uninstall the current, old version, I could then install
>>the 
>>> current version. How do you update your pandoc installation on your 
>>> computer when a new release becomes available?
>>>
>
>I have the access rights but how do I find all the files that need to
>be deleted?

Oh, maybe I should just open the tarball, see which files it contains and delete them from the installation? Or is there a simpler way?

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Re: Installing new tarball over old?

[John Gabriele]

On Fri, May 19, 2023, at 8:49 PM, H wrote:
> On May 19, 2023 8:43:51 PM EDT, H <agents-FcZObrvlYduBUy7/sJONFg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>On May 19, 2023 3:34:24 AM EDT, ThomasH <therch-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>If you have the access rights, just delete the old installation. I 
>>>personally prefer side-by-side installations so I can switch between
>>>them 
>>>(at least for some time).
>>>
>>>On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 10:52:15 PM UTC+2 H wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 05/17/2023 01:28 AM, ThomasH wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As there are so many possibilities to install some files on a
>>system,
>>>
>>>> depending on questions like whether you want to make a system-wide
>>or
>>>user 
>>>> installation etc., I think it is impossible to give a general
>>answer.
>>>If 
>>>> you are the only user on the system I would leave the existing
>>>system-wide 
>>>> (I presume) 2.19.2 installation alone, to not mess with the CentOS
>>>package 
>>>> management, unpack the 3.1.2 tarball in a suitable path under my
>>HOME
>>>and 
>>>> link to the binaries from `~/bin` which is on my PATH.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 8:56:53 PM UTC+2 H wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I found I have pandoc 2.19.2 installed on my CentOS 7 system,
>>>installed 
>>>>> as a tarball. The latest version is 3.1.2. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Do I need to uninstall the old version before unpacking the most
>>>recent 
>>>>> tarball or can I simply install over the old version and any old
>>>"cruft" 
>>>>> will be removed during installation? 
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>>
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>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> Well, that begs the question: how to uninstall pandoc from a system,
>>
>>>> regardless of whether it is installed system-wide or for an
>>>individual 
>>>> user? My installation of 2.19.2 was not done using yum (in which
>>case
>>>I 
>>>> could simply have used yum to remove it) but installed as a tarball 
>>>> downloaded from the pandoc github repository.
>>>>
>>>> If I could uninstall the current, old version, I could then install
>>>the 
>>>> current version. How do you update your pandoc installation on your 
>>>> computer when a new release becomes available?
>>>>
>>
>>I have the access rights but how do I find all the files that need to
>>be deleted?
>
> Oh, maybe I should just open the tarball, see which files it contains 
> and delete them from the installation? Or is there a simpler way?
>

Sorry, I don't remember the last time I installed Pandoc from source.
Do you have cabal installed on your machine? If so, then I'm guessing
it's there because it was used to install Pandoc, per the pandoc install
instructions. Further, maybe cabal could likewise be used to uninstall
it.

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Re: Installing new tarball over old?

[H]

On 05/19/2023 08:49 PM, H wrote:
> Oh, maybe I should just open the tarball, see which files it contains and delete them from the installation? Or is there a simpler way? 

Once I did the above, it was easy to see what had been installed and remove those files.

However, after installing the most recent release 3.1.2 I find that I cannot run it on my computer which is running CentOS 7. It complains:

-bash: /usr/local/bin/pandoc: cannot execute binary file

Does this release require some additional components I need to install as well? As noted previously, pandoc 2.19.2 ran fine.

Re: Installing new tarball over old?

[John MacFarlane]

Be sure you've got the right tarball for your architecture (we offer two -- one for arm, one for amd64).


> On May 20, 2023, at 12:31 PM, H <agents-FcZObrvlYduBUy7/sJONFg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> On 05/19/2023 08:49 PM, H wrote:
>> Oh, maybe I should just open the tarball, see which files it contains and delete them from the installation? Or is there a simpler way? 
> 
> Once I did the above, it was easy to see what had been installed and remove those files.
> 
> However, after installing the most recent release 3.1.2 I find that I cannot run it on my computer which is running CentOS 7. It complains:
> 
> -bash: /usr/local/bin/pandoc: cannot execute binary file
> 
> Does this release require some additional components I need to install as well? As noted previously, pandoc 2.19.2 ran fine.
> 
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Re: Installing new tarball over old?

[H]

On 05/20/2023 06:58 PM, John MacFarlane wrote:
> Be sure you've got the right tarball for your architecture (we offer two -- one for arm, one for amd64).
>
>
>> On May 20, 2023, at 12:31 PM, H <agents-FcZObrvlYduBUy7/sJONFg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 05/19/2023 08:49 PM, H wrote:
>>> Oh, maybe I should just open the tarball, see which files it contains and delete them from the installation? Or is there a simpler way? 
>> Once I did the above, it was easy to see what had been installed and remove those files.
>>
>> However, after installing the most recent release 3.1.2 I find that I cannot run it on my computer which is running CentOS 7. It complains:
>>
>> -bash: /usr/local/bin/pandoc: cannot execute binary file
>>
>> Does this release require some additional components I need to install as well? As noted previously, pandoc 2.19.2 ran fine.
>>
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You are right, I read the architecture part of the filename on github too quickly. Downloaded the correct version and it works.

Thank you.

Re: Installing new tarball over old?

[John Gabriele]

On Tue, May 16, 2023, at 2:56 PM, H wrote:
> I found I have pandoc 2.19.2 installed on my CentOS 7 system, installed 
> as a tarball. The latest version is 3.1.2.
>
> Do I need to uninstall the old version before unpacking the most recent 
> tarball or can I simply install over the old version and any old 
> "cruft" will be removed during installation?

I'd start by first confirming that the version you have installed
is indeed from that specific tarball. I mean, could be that someone
downloaded the tarball but then later installed using Centos'
package manager.

After that, I dunno, but if you peruse the install instructions at
https://pandoc.org/installing.html#compiling-from-source ,
you might be able to figure out how it was installed, and then
reverse those steps.

-- John

Installing new tarball over old?

[H]

I found I have pandoc 2.19.2 installed on my CentOS 7 system, installed as a tarball. The latest version is 3.1.2.

Do I need to uninstall the old version before unpacking the most recent tarball or can I simply install over the old version and any old "cruft" will be removed during installation?