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If I= =20 transform that using pandoc to LaTeX, for instance, I get: \[\underset{n}{\underset{\}\ }{xxx\ldots xx}}\] This renders in the same unexpected manner as the Word rendering when going= =20 the other way.=20 Thanks, Emma On Tuesday, 3 October 2017 10:36:44 UTC+1, Emma Cliffe wrote: > > > Morning, > > I am having trouble getting pandoc to convert underbrace either into Word= =20 > or out of Word. I wondered if there is either something I am doing wrong,= =20 > whether this is a known problem (I can't find a report) or if there is a= =20 > work round for converting into Word.=20 > > If I try to convert: > \[ > \underbrace{xxx\ldots xx}_n > \] > for instance then what I get in Word (linear format) is: > ((xxx=E2=80=A6xx)=E2=94=AC=E2=8F=9F)=E2=94=ACn > which does not render as a stretched underbrace. > > I would expect to get: > =E2=8F=9F(xxx=E2=80=A6xx)=E2=94=ACn > which is typed directly into Word as \underbrace(xxx\ldots xx)_n (then=20 > space to trigger). You get the same linear interpretation if you use the= =20 > mouse to create the structure. > > The above is the direction I am interested in. I am actually converting= =20 > from MathML and see the same behaviour as in the cut down test of md or t= ex=20 > to docx I have explained above.=20 > > For completeness I tried to convert in the other direction. Starting from= =20 > the above structure in Word I end up with: > \[\underset{n}{}\] > which has not only lost the xxx...xx but underbrace has become underset= =20 > which is not the same thing.=20 > > Does anyone know anything more about this?=20 > > Many thanks, > Emma > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. 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And, in case it is useful, the MathML:
<math xml= ns=3D"http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML" display=3D"block&q= uot;>
=C2=A0 <mrow>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <munder class=3D&q= uot;msub">
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <mrow>
=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 <munder accentunder=3D"false">
=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <mrow>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <mi= >x</mi>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <mi>x</m= i>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <mi>x</mi>
= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <mo class=3D"MathClass-op&quo= t;>&#x2026;</mo>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <= mi>x</mi>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <mi>x<= /mi>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 </mrow>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 <mo>&#xFE38;</mo>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = </munder>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </mrow>
=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <mrow>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <mi>n<= /mi>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </mrow>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </mund= er>
=C2=A0 </mrow>
</math>

This is rendered cor= rectly by MathJax and by Firefox native rendering. If I transform that usin= g pandoc to LaTeX, for instance, I get:
\[\underset{n}{\underset{\}\ }{x= xx\ldots xx}}\]
This renders in the same unexpected manner as the Word r= endering when going the other way.

Thanks,
Emma

On Tuesda= y, 3 October 2017 10:36:44 UTC+1, Emma Cliffe wrote:

Morning,

I am having tro= uble getting pandoc to convert underbrace either into Word or out of Word. = I wondered if there is either something I am doing wrong, whether this is a= known problem (I can't find a report) or if there is a work round for = converting into Word.

If I try to convert:
\[
\underbrace{xxx= \ldots xx}_n
\]
for instance then what I get in Word (linear format) = is:
((xxx=E2=80=A6xx)=E2=94=AC=E2=8F=9F)=E2=94=ACn
which does not ren= der as a stretched underbrace.

I would expect to get:
=E2=8F=9F(x= xx=E2=80=A6xx)=E2=94=ACn
which is typed directly into Word as \underbrac= e(xxx\ldots xx)_n (then space to trigger). You get the same linear interpre= tation if you use the mouse to create the structure.

The above is th= e direction I am interested in. I am actually converting from MathML and se= e the same behaviour as in the cut down test of md or tex to docx I have ex= plained above.

For completeness I tried to convert in the other dir= ection. Starting from the above structure in Word I end up with:
\[\unde= rset{n}{}\]
which has not only lost the xxx...xx but underbrace has beco= me underset which is not the same thing.

Does anyone know anything = more about this?

Many thanks,
Emma

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