sorry, meant jgm (or John) On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 09:18:47 UTC+3 gnpan wrote: > This problem was introduced with citeproc, which applies the style to the > whole document, not just citations - it didn't occur with older versions of > pandoc that used pandoc-citeproc. According to Jim > , it > would be tricky to fix this without causing problems with note citations. > > On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 00:25:14 UTC+3 amph...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote: > >> On 6/25/2021 13:47, gnpan wrote: >> > This is a csl locale issue, US is default. You can try --metadata >> > lang=en-GB as suggested here >> > or add a zero-width-space >> as >> > mentioned here >> > < >> https://groups.google.com/g/pandoc-discuss/c/NiFPVF9TeCg/m/9pHluL3iAgAJ>. >> >> > >> > >> > On Friday, 25 June 2021 at 14:38:07 UTC+3 William Lupton wrote: >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > It seems that adding --citeproc causes a question mark to be brought >> > within quotes, which I didn't expect. I tried escaping it but this >> > didn't make any difference. Putting a space before it avoids the >> > behaviour... but I don't want a space! >> > >> > Thanks, >> > William >> > >> > % pandoc -v >> > pandoc 2.14.0.3 >> > >> > % cat question.md >> > '-'? >> > >> > % pandoc question.md >> >

‘-’?

>> > >> > % pandoc --citeproc question.md >> >

‘-?’

>> > >> >> >> US practice is to put commas and stops inside the quotation marks of a >> quotation and larger punctuation (?!;:) outside, except in the case that >> the large punctuation is part of the quoted material (“Who, me?”). So, >> US practice supports both. >> Similarly, British (or UK, or GB) practice places marks in a default >> position (outside) but allows them inside based on the semantic content. >> If CSL US locale processing is mangling this by moving both large and >> small marks in every case, then CSL processing is creating some new >> standard. I would suggest that if the proper position cannot be >> programmatically determined it should default to what the writer writes. >> Quotation marks are used for other things than quotations. Indeed, >> the use in citation processing is such another use. Again the writer >> must be trusted to place punctuation properly in context. A.J. Liebling >> wrote ‘Do You Belong in Journalism?’ in 1960; did he write it in his >> regular column ‘The Wayward Press’? >> The behavior identified here takes place outside of citation >> processing. The OP is rightly surprised that it results in changes >> beyond that scope. >> >> -- >> Rik >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/40e3a7b3-c3d4-4a8e-bba0-b3a5bd4b7cfen%40googlegroups.com.