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We're seeing a small-scale repeat of Browser Wars regarding *de facto* standards being ushered in without due process, which inevitably leads to splintering and incompatibilities. That was my main point, sorry that I did not state it directly. To be clear, I think it'd be worthwhile to have a discussion about introducing simple namespaces regarding diagrams, syntax highlighting, and other possible ways to mark up diagrams. Without such a discussion, we'll see proliferation of Markdown documents that are specific to different implementations. Or maybe having different flavours of Markdown is fine and any software that wants to support Markdown can optionally support as many flavours is people request: GitHub Markdown, GitLab Markdown, Pandoc Markdown, KeenWrite Markdown, Markdown-Writer-FX Markdown, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. 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There's a bigger issue here that isn't about whether pandoc supports K= roki diagrams.

We're seeing a small-scale repeat o= f Browser Wars regarding de facto standards being ushered in without= due process, which inevitably leads to splintering and incompatibilities. = That was my main point, sorry that I did not state it directly.

To be clear, I think it'd be worthwhile to have a discuss= ion about introducing simple namespaces regarding diagrams, syntax highligh= ting, and other possible ways to mark up diagrams. Without such a discussio= n, we'll see proliferation of Markdown documents that are specific to diffe= rent implementations.

Or maybe having different fl= avours of Markdown is fine and any software that wants to support Markdown = can optionally support as many flavours is people request: GitHub Markdown,= GitLab Markdown, Pandoc Markdown, KeenWrite Markdown, Markdown-Writer-FX M= arkdown, etc.

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