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* ICML and citations
@ 2014-11-30  5:18 Martin Saxer
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From: Martin Saxer @ 2014-11-30  5:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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ICML output generated with the `--filter pandoc-citeproc` turns inline 
author-date citations into footnotes. Is this a bug or is there a way to 
change this behaviour?

I am using the following command in pandoc 1.13.1:

pandoc --filter pandoc-citeproc test.md -t icml -o test.icml -s


This is my input document (screenshot of resulting InDesign document see 
attachment):

---
references:
- id: fenner2012a
  title: One-click science marketing
  author:
  - family: Fenner
    given: Martin
  container-title: Nature Materials
  volume: 11
  URL: 'http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/nmat3283'
  DOI: 10.1038/nmat3283
  issue: 4
  publisher: Nature Publishing Group
  page: 261-263
  type: article-journal
  issued:
    year: 2012
    month: 3
...


## Test
See @fenner2012a

## References

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* Re: ICML and citations
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@ 2014-11-30  5:40   ` John MacFarlane
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From: John MacFarlane @ 2014-11-30  5:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
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It could be changed -- I can't recall whether there's a reason for
that.  What would the desired behavior be?

+++ Martin Saxer [Nov 29 14 21:18 ]:
>ICML output generated with the `--filter pandoc-citeproc` turns inline
>author-date citations into footnotes. Is this a bug or is there a way to
>change this behaviour?
>
>I am using the following command in pandoc 1.13.1:
>
>pandoc --filter pandoc-citeproc test.md -t icml -o test.icml -s
>
>
>This is my input document (screenshot of resulting InDesign document see
>attachment):
>
>---
>references:
>- id: fenner2012a
>  title: One-click science marketing
>  author:
>  - family: Fenner
>    given: Martin
>  container-title: Nature Materials
>  volume: 11
>  URL: 'http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/nmat3283'
>  DOI: 10.1038/nmat3283
>  issue: 4
>  publisher: Nature Publishing Group
>  page: 261-263
>  type: article-journal
>  issued:
>    year: 2012
>    month: 3
>...
>
>
>## Test
>See @fenner2012a
>
>## References
>
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* Re: ICML and citations
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@ 2014-11-30 11:54       ` Martin Saxer
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From: Martin Saxer @ 2014-11-30 11:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Thanks for the quick answer. 

The desired behaviour should be to follow the what CLS defines, imho. The default Chicago Author-Date should produce an author-date inline citation – just as in all the other output formats. I cannot think of situation in which the present behaviour makes sense.



 
> On 30 Nov 2014, at 08:40, John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> It could be changed -- I can't recall whether there's a reason for
> that.  What would the desired behavior be?
> 
> +++ Martin Saxer [Nov 29 14 21:18 ]:
>> ICML output generated with the `--filter pandoc-citeproc` turns inline
>> author-date citations into footnotes. Is this a bug or is there a way to
>> change this behaviour?
>> 
>> I am using the following command in pandoc 1.13.1:
>> 
>> pandoc --filter pandoc-citeproc test.md -t icml -o test.icml -s
>> 
>> 
>> This is my input document (screenshot of resulting InDesign document see
>> attachment):
>> 
>> ---
>> references:
>> - id: fenner2012a
>> title: One-click science marketing
>> author:
>> - family: Fenner
>>   given: Martin
>> container-title: Nature Materials
>> volume: 11
>> URL: 'http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/nmat3283'
>> DOI: 10.1038/nmat3283
>> issue: 4
>> publisher: Nature Publishing Group
>> page: 261-263
>> type: article-journal
>> issued:
>>   year: 2012
>>   month: 3
>> ...
>> 
>> 
>> ## Test
>> See @fenner2012a
>> 
>> ## References
>> 
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* Re: ICML and citations
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@ 2014-12-01  6:30           ` John MacFarlane
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From: John MacFarlane @ 2014-12-01  6:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I don't know why it was done this way -- but in any case, I've
changed it in the dev version so that citations are no longer
forced into notes.

+++ Martin Saxer [Nov 30 14 14:54 ]:
>Thanks for the quick answer.
>
>The desired behaviour should be to follow the what CLS defines, imho. The default Chicago Author-Date should produce an author-date inline citation – just as in all the other output formats. I cannot think of situation in which the present behaviour makes sense.
>
>
>
>
>> On 30 Nov 2014, at 08:40, John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> It could be changed -- I can't recall whether there's a reason for
>> that.  What would the desired behavior be?
>>
>> +++ Martin Saxer [Nov 29 14 21:18 ]:
>>> ICML output generated with the `--filter pandoc-citeproc` turns inline
>>> author-date citations into footnotes. Is this a bug or is there a way to
>>> change this behaviour?
>>>
>>> I am using the following command in pandoc 1.13.1:
>>>
>>> pandoc --filter pandoc-citeproc test.md -t icml -o test.icml -s
>>>
>>>
>>> This is my input document (screenshot of resulting InDesign document see
>>> attachment):
>>>
>>> ---
>>> references:
>>> - id: fenner2012a
>>> title: One-click science marketing
>>> author:
>>> - family: Fenner
>>>   given: Martin
>>> container-title: Nature Materials
>>> volume: 11
>>> URL: 'http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/nmat3283'
>>> DOI: 10.1038/nmat3283
>>> issue: 4
>>> publisher: Nature Publishing Group
>>> page: 261-263
>>> type: article-journal
>>> issued:
>>>   year: 2012
>>>   month: 3
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> ## Test
>>> See @fenner2012a
>>>
>>> ## References
>>>
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* Re: ICML and citations
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@ 2014-12-01  6:31               ` Martin Saxer
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Great! Thanks a lot.
M.

> On 1 Dec 2014, at 09:30, John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> I don't know why it was done this way -- but in any case, I've
> changed it in the dev version so that citations are no longer
> forced into notes.
> 
> +++ Martin Saxer [Nov 30 14 14:54 ]:
>> Thanks for the quick answer.
>> 
>> The desired behaviour should be to follow the what CLS defines, imho. The default Chicago Author-Date should produce an author-date inline citation – just as in all the other output formats. I cannot think of situation in which the present behaviour makes sense.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 30 Nov 2014, at 08:40, John MacFarlane <jgm-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It could be changed -- I can't recall whether there's a reason for
>>> that.  What would the desired behavior be?
>>> 
>>> +++ Martin Saxer [Nov 29 14 21:18 ]:
>>>> ICML output generated with the `--filter pandoc-citeproc` turns inline
>>>> author-date citations into footnotes. Is this a bug or is there a way to
>>>> change this behaviour?
>>>> 
>>>> I am using the following command in pandoc 1.13.1:
>>>> 
>>>> pandoc --filter pandoc-citeproc test.md -t icml -o test.icml -s
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> This is my input document (screenshot of resulting InDesign document see
>>>> attachment):
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> references:
>>>> - id: fenner2012a
>>>> title: One-click science marketing
>>>> author:
>>>> - family: Fenner
>>>>  given: Martin
>>>> container-title: Nature Materials
>>>> volume: 11
>>>> URL: 'http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/nmat3283'
>>>> DOI: 10.1038/nmat3283
>>>> issue: 4
>>>> publisher: Nature Publishing Group
>>>> page: 261-263
>>>> type: article-journal
>>>> issued:
>>>>  year: 2012
>>>>  month: 3
>>>> ...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ## Test
>>>> See @fenner2012a
>>>> 
>>>> ## References
>>>> 
>>>> --
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