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Still use it for various things. But for th= e life of me, I couldn=E2=80=99t understand the Pandoc LaTeX templating sys= tem. Perhaps I have less cognitive horsepower than typical Pandoc users, or= maybe I=E2=80=99m a bit short of patience. Vit Novotny=E2=80=99s LaTeX markdown package caught my attention; so I star= ted working with him to understand markdown + LaTeX in my own work as write= r/self-publisher. This led to my latest book project: Publish Beautiful Boo= ks with Markdown: the Fast Track to LaTeX. PB demonstrates how to style and= format fiction, nonfiction, and academic works as well as production of bo= ok marketing collateral. The two major markdown issues I=E2=80=99ve run into are control over vertic= al space and scaling and placement of images. And more, Vit has done a few = things with LaTeX snippets and plain TeX in the PB templates that I=E2=80= =99m still striving to understand. I=E2=80=99m not hide bound to any technology. There are many route to the s= ummit of efficient book composition and publishing. I have more books that = I want to write than hours left in my lifetime. So I continue to explore an= d advance as best I can. All the best, LRP Sent from my iPad > On Jul 19, 2022, at 10:10 AM, Bastien DUMONT = wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFIf you target LaTeX, I think that all this can be done with Pand= oc by modifying the template, using spans and divs with custom classes and = attributes and passing them to a filter which adds the appropriate LaTeX co= de. If you have everything else in mind, could you give a simple example? >=20 >> Le Tuesday 19 July 2022 =C3=A0 09:56:28AM, Lloyd R. prentice a =C3=A9cri= t : >> Hi, >>=20 >> I have looked at Context, but have not put it to work. I find the docume= ntation rather confusing. But it does look interesting. >>=20 >> I don=E2=80=99t find layout that difficult with LaTeX. In fact I=E2=80= =99ve just written a =E2=80=9C30-minute Challenge=E2=80=9D tutorial in whic= h the user styles a three-chapter novel with front matter in less than 30 m= inutes. The chapters are generated with the LaTeX lipsum package. >>=20 >> My quest is for a method of styling the various edge cases that come up = in book design with the low cognitive load of markdown. I=E2=80=99m motivat= ed by, best guess, more than two million self-publishers around the world p= ublishing books each year, all too many of whom rely on their word processo= rs for type setting. They are often criticized for low production quality a= nd suffer book sales in the low tens of units. >>=20 >> Thanks, >>=20 >> LRP >>=20 >> Sent from my iPad >>=20 >>>> On Jul 19, 2022, at 2:14 AM, 'juh' via pandoc-discuss wrote: >>>=20 >>> =EF=BB=BFAm Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 04:15:09PM -0400 schrieb Lloyd R. pren= tice: >>>> The basic tags of extended Pandoc markdown go far. But it would be >>>> productive to somehow simply mark a block of copy and apply an >>>> arbitrary LaTeX package or snippet. This can be done with the LaTeX >>>> markdown package at the cost of dropping down into plain TeX which is >>>> much harder to learn than CSS and likely far beyond the skill set of >>>> most self-publishers. >>>=20 >>> Have you ever considered to use ConTeXt?=20 >>> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page >>>=20 >>> I my experience it is much easier to define custom layouts with ConTeXt >>> than with LaTeX as the styling is done with key value constructs like i= n css. >>>=20 >>> With lua scripts you can apply custom environments to blocks.=20 >>>=20 >>> juh=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Autoren-Homepage: ......... http://literatur.hasecke.com >>> Satiren & Essays: ......... http://www.sudelbuch.de >>> Privater Blog: ............ http://www.hasecke.eu >>> Netzliteratur-Projekt: .... http://www.generationenprojekt.de >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps "pandoc-discuss" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send = an email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ms= gid/pandoc-discuss/YtZLu1RFABVwZ2BL%40odysseus. >>=20 >> --=20 >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s "pandoc-discuss" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg= id/pandoc-discuss/13939C0B-E70D-441B-9783-6D0E858EDD2B%40writersglen.com. >=20 >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an= email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgi= d/pandoc-discuss/Yta7OaNMTLHNdy20%40localhost. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. 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