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In most cases, they are open because, although there is som= ething good in them, and we want to think about them more, we are doubtful = about whether the proposed fix is an optimal one. In the case of your pulls: there is ongoing discussion, as late as today, a= bout how to fix the issues addressed by 9170 and 9162. I can have another = look at 8998...but the last commits there, in response to earlier feedback,= were only last week. > On Nov 6, 2023, at 4:47 AM, Stephan Meijer wrote: >=20 > I would like to draw attention to the current status of our contributions= to the Pandoc project. At this moment, we have three open pull requests: > =E2=80=A2 #9170 > =E2=80=A2 #9162 > =E2=80=A2 #8998 > Our team has been contemplating forking as a way to keep our projects mov= ing along, but we're fully aware of the maintenance challenges this could i= ntroduce, especially when it comes to staying in step with the updates from= the main Pandoc repository. > We're invested in supporting the Pandoc community and would much prefer t= o work within the existing framework to get these PRs processed. We're on t= he lookout for any advice on how to make this as smooth and unobtrusive as = possible for everyone involved. > Could you guide us on the best way to move forward with these contributio= ns? Any pointers on how to streamline our PRs or suggestions on alternative= approaches that could help lighten the load for the Pandoc maintainers wou= ld be much appreciated. >=20 > On Monday, 6 November 2023 at 13:37:06 UTC+1 Stephan Meijer wrote: > This is mainly directed to @jgm / John MacFarlane and/or Pandoc maintaine= rs. >=20 > I am reaching out on behalf of our team, which frequently utilizes Pandoc= for numerous conversion tasks. We have been closely following the project= =E2=80=99s progress and have observed the growing number of open issues (94= 7 to date) and pull requests (77 at the current count). Recognizing the imm= ense value that Pandoc provides to the community, we are keen to explore ho= w we might contribute to the project's health and sustainability. >=20 > Understanding that managing such a popular project can be challenging, we= are curious about the underlying factors contributing to the backlog. Coul= d the project be facing constraints in terms of time, resources, or funding= ? We are contemplating what actions our team could take to assist effective= ly. >=20 > We are eager to give back to the Pandoc community that has offered us so = much. Please let us know the most impactful way we can lend our support. >=20 > Stephan Meijer >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "pandoc-discuss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an= email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgi= d/pandoc-discuss/13581e70-a573-414a-ab05-bfa9f73b9259n%40googlegroups.com. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. 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