Re: ignorenonframetext in default.latex

[Paul Gesting <folofjc-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>]

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Hi John,

Thanks so much for the quick fix, I really appreciate it! 

On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 6:40:39 AM UTC+1 Paul Gesting wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> I am using 2.11.2 on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and it adds it, as you saw. I 
> created two issues: One for the feature request 
> <https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/7857> and one for the documentation 
> <https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/7856>.
>
> Thanks again for all your help and for how incredibly useful pandoc is!
>
> On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 8:54:00 PM UTC+1 John MacFarlane wrote:
>
>>
>> Scratch that...I see now that it does create the extra
>> slide.
>>
>> Well, I think we can fix that. If you submit an issue
>> on our GitHub tracker, it will help me keep track.
>> And mention in the issue that the manual needs to
>> be updated to reflect that speaker notes work with
>> beamer, too.
>>
>> John MacFarlane <j...-TVLZxgkOlNX2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>> > It didn't add a frame for me when I tried it...
>> > Are you using an up-to-date pandoc?
>> >
>> > Paul Gesting <fol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>> >
>> >> Hi John,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for the quick reply! That was one of the first things I tried. 
>> The 
>> >> ::: notes block does the exact same thing as simply \note{...}. Both 
>> of 
>> >> them add a frame. Sorry, I wasn't very clear in my tex.se question, 
>> but the 
>> >> reason I put both the ::: notes block and the \note{...} command was 
>> to 
>> >> show that both give the exact same result in the .text file that I 
>> showed.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>> >> paul
>> >>
>> >> On Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 6:55:43 PM UTC+1 John MacFarlane 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> What happens if you do this (with current pandoc)?
>> >>>
>> >>> % pandoc -t beamer -s -o my.pdf --slide-level=2
>> >>> # Hi
>> >>>
>> >>> ::: notes
>> >>> note
>> >>> :::
>> >>>
>> >>> ## Slide
>> >>>
>> >>> ok
>> >>> ^D
>> >>>
>> >>> When I tried this, I did not get an extra page after the section
>> >>> heading "Hi". (But I'm not sure how to view the notes with
>> >>> beamer.)
>> >>>
>> >>> Actually, the manual says that "notes" divs are only supported
>> >>> for powerpoint and reveal.js. This seems wrong, because beamer
>> >>> does now seem to support them. So perhaps the manual needs
>> >>> updating? But how do you actually use the speaker notes with
>> >>> beamer?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Paul Gesting <fol...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:
>> >>>
>> >>> > I actually have a use case where I would like text under a section 
>> title 
>> >>> to 
>> >>> > be outside of a frame. See the question I posted here 
>> >>> > <
>> >>> 
>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/630390/add-a-beamer-note-to-a-section-slide-using-pandoc-and-markdown
>> >>> >
>> >>> > .
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Basically, if I want to add a note to a section title, I do not 
>> want a 
>> >>> > blank frame to be added for the note. I want the note on the 
>> section 
>> >>> frame. 
>> >>> > Is this still possible after the change that is cited above?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Sunday, September 13, 2020 at 11:04:16 PM UTC+2 
>> thomas....-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org 
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Here is something that would be different after the change:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> A md like this:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> ```
>> >>> >> # Foo
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Foo
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> ## Bar
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Bar
>> >>> >> ```
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> The command: `$ pandoc --slide-level=2 -t beamer -o test.tex 
>> test.md` 
>> >>> >> produces LaTeX where there is text ('Foo') outside of a frame. If 
>> >>> >> ignorefametext is removed from the template, doing $ pandoc 
>> >>> --slide-level=2 
>> >>> >> -t beamer -o test.pdf test.md` would give different results, i.e., 
>> >>> 'Foo' 
>> >>> >> would now be printed on a new slide after the section, rather than 
>> not 
>> >>> >> appearing at all.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Sunday, 13 September 2020 at 22:26:02 UTC+2 Thomas Hodgson 
>> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> Is there a case where it would be expected that something would 
>> be 
>> >>> >>> written outside a frame, and that it should be ignored?
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> I have checked the modified template with sections, and with 
>> >>> subsections, 
>> >>> >>> and without either.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> On Sunday, 13 September 2020 at 21:23:19 UTC+2 John MacFarlane 
>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> We used to ignore stuff outside of frames. 
>> >>> >>>> However, this changed with 
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> 
>> >>> 
>> https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/commit/f431f67b2f2f5071345fa5800658375afaf44c1b 
>> >>> >>>> (somewhat controversially) 
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> It may be that after this commit, removing ignorenonframetext 
>> >>> >>>> would be okay. Maybe someone can test that out (with a lot of 
>> >>> >>>> different cases, please). 
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> Thomas Hodgson <thomas....-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes: 
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> > The default.latex template uses the 'ignorenonframetext' for 
>> >>> Beamer. 
>> >>> >>>> Is 
>> >>> >>>> > there a good reason for this? If that was removed from the 
>> >>> template, 
>> >>> >>>> there 
>> >>> >>>> > would be no need to handle making titles differently for 
>> beamer and 
>> >>> >>>> other 
>> >>> >>>> > formats, i.e., it could be done with `\maketitle` in both 
>> cases. I 
>> >>> >>>> think 
>> >>> >>>> > that that's better when using themes that treat a title slide 
>> >>> >>>> differently 
>> >>> >>>> > from ordinary slides (such as Metropolis). 
>> >>> >>>> > 
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