smarter smart quotes please :)

smarter smart quotes please :)

[Mikolaj Machowski]

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Hello,

First of all: thank you for pandoc.


Second:

Any progress with configurable smart quotes?

https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/2620
https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/3559

(I se 3559 was closed only with regard to translations of some envs.)

default when changing quotes pandoc defaults to US combination of:

66-upper 99-upper

But there are many other variations, for example:

Lang:    opening-q closing-q
Input:   "         "
German:  99-lower  66-upper
Polish:  99-lower  99-upper
French:  <<        >>
English: 6-upper   9-upper
Danish:  >>        <<

In HTML it is partially fixed with `--html-q-tags` but more advanced
typography, nbsp before/after some entities would be also great in:

html, docx, odt, rtf, epub

For example lines 1186+ from Docx.hs are:

https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/blob/3897df868ad1e0ca5409e8fffd86c73dbf6f2b31/src/Text/Pandoc/Writers/Docx.hs#L1186

    where (open, close) = case quoteType of
           SingleQuote -> ("\x2018", "\x2019")
           DoubleQuote -> ("\x201C", "\x201D")

It would be great if those where lang dependent. Same for title of toc:
BTW - with regard to discussion about French quotation - do arguments here 
accept
two characters: <opening-quote><nbsp> ?

https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/blob/3897df868ad1e0ca5409e8fffd86c73dbf6f2b31/src/Text/Pandoc/Writers/Docx.hs#L150


I am sorry, looks like I cannot setup Haskell environment on my maching to 
test some things myself.


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Re: smarter smart quotes please :)

[Mikolaj Machowski]

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Sorry, this one was about hard coded in English title of contents which is 
bummer when exporting into docx.
On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 5:56:16 PM UTC+1, Mikolaj Machowski wrote:
>
>
> https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/blob/3897df868ad1e0ca5409e8fffd86c73dbf6f2b31/src/Text/Pandoc/Writers/Docx.hs#L150
>
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Re: smarter smart quotes please :)

[BP Jonsson]

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I have a filter which lets you define your own quotes in the metadata. You
can even use different quotes in different parts of a document by setting a
variable in a surrounding div. It is in need of some documentation though.

/bpj



Den 9 nov 2017 17:56 skrev "Mikolaj Machowski" <mikmach-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>:

> Hello,
>
> First of all: thank you for pandoc.
>
>
> Second:
>
> Any progress with configurable smart quotes?
>
> https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/2620
> https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/3559
>
> (I se 3559 was closed only with regard to translations of some envs.)
>
> default when changing quotes pandoc defaults to US combination of:
>
> 66-upper 99-upper
>
> But there are many other variations, for example:
>
> Lang:    opening-q closing-q
> Input:   "         "
> German:  99-lower  66-upper
> Polish:  99-lower  99-upper
> French:  <<        >>
> English: 6-upper   9-upper
> Danish:  >>        <<
>
> In HTML it is partially fixed with `--html-q-tags` but more advanced
> typography, nbsp before/after some entities would be also great in:
>
> html, docx, odt, rtf, epub
>
> For example lines 1186+ from Docx.hs are:
>
> https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/blob/3897df868ad1e0ca5409e8fffd86c7
> 3dbf6f2b31/src/Text/Pandoc/Writers/Docx.hs#L1186
>
>     where (open, close) = case quoteType of
>            SingleQuote -> ("\x2018", "\x2019")
>            DoubleQuote -> ("\x201C", "\x201D")
>
> It would be great if those where lang dependent. Same for title of toc:
> BTW - with regard to discussion about French quotation - do arguments here
> accept
> two characters: <opening-quote><nbsp> ?
>
> https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/blob/3897df868ad1e0ca5409e8fffd86c7
> 3dbf6f2b31/src/Text/Pandoc/Writers/Docx.hs#L150
>
>
> I am sorry, looks like I cannot setup Haskell environment on my maching to
> test some things myself.
>
>
> ...

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Re: smarter smart quotes please :)

[Roland Hieber]

On 11.11.2017 16:04, BP Jonsson wrote:
> I have a filter which lets you define your own quotes in the metadata.
> You can even use different quotes in different parts of a document by
> setting a variable in a surrounding div. It is in need of some
> documentation though.

It seems that it's also in need of a URL, since I would really like to
use it :-)

 - Roland

Re: smarter smart quotes please :)

[Mikolaj Machowski]

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Thanks, I've compiled script for Polish basic typography (no filter) it 
would take more time:

https://github.com/vvizzo/mtypography

It is tailored strictly for Polish but discussion about no-breaking spaces 
may be useful for other users.

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Re: smarter smart quotes please :)

[BP Jonsson]

Den 2017-11-11 kl. 20:15, skrev Roland Hieber:
> On 11.11.2017 16:04, BP Jonsson wrote:
>> I have a filter which lets you define your own quotes in the metadata.
>> You can even use different quotes in different parts of a document by
>> setting a variable in a surrounding div. It is in need of some
>> documentation though.
> 
> It seems that it's also in need of a URL, since I would really like to
> use it :-)

I'm pleased to tell that it now has both:

https://git.io/vFocS

https://git.io/vFoBY (documentation)

/bpj