Re: LaTeX: Individual words in Chinese script

["'Frederik Elwert' via pandoc-discuss" <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>]

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Wow, thank you so much!
John MacFarlane schrieb am Freitag, 10. März 2023 um 23:20:35 UTC+1:

> I’ve updated pandoc with both the changes you suggested.  chinese is now 
> used with babel, and the template now includes babelfonts.  With the new 
> code you should be able to make this work without a filter.
>
> On Mar 10, 2023, at 12:32 PM, 'Frederik Elwert' via pandoc-discuss <
> pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the kind reply!
>
> If I see it correctly, modern babel works fine with Chinese the same way 
> as other languages. I wrote a small lua filter that inserts raw 
> `\foreignlanguage`/`\begin{otherlanguage}` commands for chinese in the same 
> way as pandoc by default does for other languages, and it works just fine. 
> So maybe the best solution would be to simply add chinese to Lang.hs?
>
> Also, I modified the template a little bit to support a `babelfonts` 
> metadata structure. That allows to specify custom fonts for other scripts. 
> Would something like this be acceptable for the default template?
>
> You can see my solution in this gist: 
> https://gist.github.com/frederik-elwert/fb1ab57bf88fa2c6dbd7253958b64014
>
> An example patch for the template is attached.
>
> If someone sees any issues with this approach, I’m glad if they could 
> point them out. I don’t write Chinese myself, so I don’t know if there are 
> subtle issues that I’m not aware of.
>
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> John MacFarlane schrieb am Freitag, 10. März 2023 um 19:17:56 UTC+1:
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>> Obviously, it is important to support this kind of thing. Can someone 
>> else who uses pandoc with multiple scripts comment on how you handle this?
>>  
>>
>> One solution I see at 
>>
>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/165197/russian-and-chinese-in-the-same-document
>>  
>> is 
>>
>> \usepackage[encapsulated]{CJK} 
>>
>> and then 
>>
>> \begin{CJK}{UTF8}{gbsn} 
>> 你好 
>> \end{CJK} 
>>
>> Perhaps you could use a Lua filter to convert [你好]{lang=zh} to this form?
>>  
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>> > On Mar 10, 2023, at 2:35 AM, 'Frederik Elwert' via pandoc-discuss <
>> pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Hi! 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > We are typesetting a lot of academic texts which are mainly in English, 
>> but contain words in other languages/scripts. At the moment, I need to 
>> produce an article that contains individual words in traditional Chinese.
>>  
>> > 
>> > With pandoc, I currently face two issues: 
>> > 
>> > First, chinese is not defined in Writers/LaTeX/Lang.hs. This means 
>> that, in contrast to other scripts, I cannot use `[言]{lang="zh-Hant"}`. For 
>> other languages that are defined, the LaTeX writer produces 
>> `\foreignlanguage{}{}` commands, but in this case it produces only `{言}`. 
>> Thus, the only possibility is to resort to `CJKmainfont`. The issue is that 
>> this switches on xeCJK for the whole document, which has undesirable side 
>> effects (mainly concerning spacing around punctuation characters). Thus, I 
>> have to introduce manual `\makexeCJKactive`/`\makexeCJKinactive` commands 
>> in my markdown source. For short passages of Chinese, it is actually 
>> desirable not to use xeCJK, but simply babel, as with other scripts. 
>> > 
>> > Second, I do not see a way to define fonts for other scripts. The 
>> default LaTeX template calls `\babelprovide` for used fonts, but does not 
>> allow to define corresponding `\babelfont`s. With the old polyglossia 
>> system, IIRC, it was possible to use the `fontfamilies` metadata entry to 
>> define `\chinesefont` etc. for additional scripts. But this does no longer 
>> work with babel (if I’m not missing something). 
>> > 
>> > So basically my question is twofold: First, how do I define additional 
>> fonts for foreign scripts with the new babel system, and second, would it 
>> be possible to support chinese script in the LaTeX writer in the same way 
>> it supports other scripts? 
>> > Thanks, 
>> > Frederik 
>> > 
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