From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.text.pandoc/31967 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Carter Wood Newsgroups: gmane.text.pandoc Subject: Re: Inserting citations into text editors Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2023 02:52:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4e64b509-7781-4511-856c-723daf2aae4fn@googlegroups.com> References: <97a91bc5-d1da-45ba-8763-1617c8760f88@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_320_1294423463.1673175156520" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19201"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: pandoc-discuss Original-X-From: pandoc-discuss+bncBCYPBGVKTEEBB5WA5KOQMGQEMRW4AIQ-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Sun Jan 08 11:52:42 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: gtp-pandoc-discuss@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from mail-ot1-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pETIA-0004re-3r for gtp-pandoc-discuss@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2023 11:52:42 +0100 Original-Received: by mail-ot1-f61.google.com with SMTP id w30-20020a056830411e00b0067e0d32a2cesf2847605ott.5 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2023 02:52:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20210112; h=list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-help:list-post :list-id:mailing-list:precedence:reply-to:x-original-sender :mime-version:subject:references:in-reply-to:message-id:to:from:date :sender:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ofJCgSHYAq1NNII59mttjZ8m5OoJqIeqKAWQHVcDTFI=; b=NdzsFjtZlm4DizWexjqcovGg1G4AsC/QYndRvwRXzQBk3Ccei+ZUBs0tucpU/9jSa+ Bw1jzXAA2niOr0n2VUgBlTqGG9ey9CRjTKsog3ZD4mOhgP2vQ69hgTSwAICA+bQBZnA9 S22Qx4dFJjz51YVf0UwPpAKJiVekSghP+RqeB3NYZNj8edm3CEPHovO47GRmp841b++9 T9stw/SKJq27m4kEZG6dZpSjhPDyrXGTOcb/0ePcRj1sQEcr9JQVDPRrQ9C724q681HK GAY/wh/zYBYoKInBoh5Qe17TG/BastQrEFz9v5/LxawjXAxEkP82X/7H541eDCyGHiX2 h9HQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-help:list-post :x-spam-checked-in-group:list-id:mailing-list:precedence:reply-to :x-original-sender:mime-version:subject:references:in-reply-to :message-id:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=ofJCgSHYAq1NNII59mttjZ8m5OoJqIeqKAWQHVcDTFI=; b=8NiUDb60o/x9YCM+tUgJcHcfW/j7r4rX0qfsscBqvW2Jd48tY/oB9s8cfRHM/y9V7U nwl7OFjKLqnsuMbTCVWEYhy0wDfyG9I5ZIRuub+Zy4kOSzJMW8/vc4oidm+Fxuvsd/Lb KuJbNbq7zTFatVgPg4EpZmB0KwmCR4XmjeticXpPHfH+p7L/E02uafg7ROPLCL8mR5Yz pDtKuCxEhY0M6NpFBYpQcWwY8GlAvPy/vTcdIZcTx6f89F8eNacAEZ9nuck9lTY1GDWS zdCbVlteIr6Z0lNGCr3322YQWW5gJJE7PdHEGeKAW1Oz4eF9uCBk/r2dhS+M5HlEnweg RgBA== Original-Sender: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kqrVPnzLbE/V1PGmQgk9wiMj/19bAPc/Rdqn624sQ5kexc8bCCZ ivSrf/iOrzbJn+wSpXGweZc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXsto2n8hzw4pN2UXWKetWEJbr8UQ1m2pTDVEeM4Dsk09SDeLjFsa3uPnKZhgF2HVn+FtBvlTA== X-Received: by 2002:a9d:628b:0:b0:670:58c8:5342 with SMTP id x11-20020a9d628b000000b0067058c85342mr3584944otk.140.1673175160962; Sun, 08 Jan 2023 02:52:40 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org Original-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:1690:b0:363:22a6:79a9 with SMTP id bb16-20020a056808169000b0036322a679a9ls1326267oib.0.-pod-prod-gmail; Sun, 08 Jan 2023 02:52:37 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:1387:b0:35b:75b:f3b9 with SMTP id c7-20020a056808138700b0035b075bf3b9mr3614209oiw.98.1673175157488; Sun, 08 Jan 2023 02:52:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: woodjo-ZOsAvrTRSvuEhhMi0yms2Q@public.gmane.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org; contact pandoc-discuss+owners-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1007024079513 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.text.pandoc:31967 Archived-At: ------=_Part_320_1294423463.1673175156520 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_321_1295386287.1673175156521" ------=_Part_321_1295386287.1673175156521 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use Zotero with BetterBibTeX (BBT) to manage my references and generate= =20 .bib / .json files.=20 For text editing I use Emacs to write in Markdown and have incorporated=20 helm-bibtex to allow me to enter citations easily:=20 https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex I'm not certain that this kind of set-up will solve your problem (as I use= =20 pretty standard Zotero styles for my citekeys), but as others have noted,= =20 BBT allows you to change the formatting of citekeys. I haven't experimented= =20 too much with helm-bibtex, but it works well with Emacs. Emacs is kind of a= =20 world in itself to get into, but I am comforted at least by the probability= =20 that it won't disappear any time soon and I can continue using my hard-won= =20 knowledge till at least the end of my academic career. :-) pedro....-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org schrieb am Samstag, 7. Januar 2023 um 18:34:14 UTC+1: > > One related problem I run into with other options, is that I often have= =20 > one author with multiple books which can make searching through citekeys= =20 > difficult. For instance I may have 5 cite keys listed as @foo123, @foo345= ,=20 > @foo678, etc. So if, when searching, it could display the author name and= =20 > book, and then insert the citekey that would be the best! > > On Zotero, the BetterBibTeX plugin allows you to customize the citekey to= =20 > be exported in the .bib file. This way you can use something like=20 > `@author:2010firstwordoftitle` to make it easier to find what you need. > > Em sexta-feira, 8 de setembro de 2017 =C3=A0s 18:15:34 UTC+1, MK escreveu= : > >> I've been using a number of different writing programs recently, and eac= h=20 >> time I make a switch I always run into the same problem, how to easily= =20 >> insert citations. Most recently I've been satisfied with Sublime Text an= d=20 >> this plugin that reads my= =20 >> .bib file and easily inserts the pandoc citation. Now I'm fiddling with= =20 >> Ulysses, and I've run into the problem again: how to easily access and= =20 >> insert my citations. I plan on continuing to use a .bib file and convert= =20 >> with pandoc. >> >> Since I use Launchbar, I thought that if there were a way to search=20 >> through my .bib file with that and insert my citation, this would make t= he=20 >> issues disappear. However, I'm really not sure how to do it. Essentially= =20 >> I'm looking for the same functionality of that plugin just not tied to= =20 >> sublime text. Any thoughts would be appreciated!=20 >> >> One related problem I run into with other options, is that I often have= =20 >> one author with multiple books which can make searching through citekeys= =20 >> difficult. For instance I may have 5 cite keys listed as @foo123, @foo34= 5,=20 >> @foo678, etc. So if, when searching, it could display the author name an= d=20 >> book, and then insert the citekey that would be the best! >> >> PS I've seen some options such as this one by David Sanson=20 >> which uses= =20 >> bibdesk, and this one which uses text expander=20 >> , both of which I've=20 >> found a little awkward.=20 >> > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/= pandoc-discuss/4e64b509-7781-4511-856c-723daf2aae4fn%40googlegroups.com. ------=_Part_321_1295386287.1673175156521 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use Zotero with BetterBibTeX (BBT) to manage my references and generate .= bib / .json files.

For text editing I use Emacs to write in Markdow= n and have incorporated helm-bibtex to allow me to enter citations easily: = https://github.com/tmalsburg/helm-bibtex

I'm not certain that this k= ind of set-up will solve your problem (as I use pretty standard Zotero styl= es for my citekeys), but as others have noted, BBT allows you to change the= formatting of citekeys. I haven't experimented too much with helm-bibtex, = but it works well with Emacs. Emacs is kind of a world in itself to get int= o, but I am comforted at least by the probability that it won't disappear a= ny time soon and I can continue using my hard-won knowledge till at least t= he end of my academic career. :-)

pedro....-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org schrieb am Samstag, 7. = Januar 2023 um 18:34:14 UTC+1:
> One related problem I run into with other optio= ns, is that I often=20 have one author with multiple books which can make searching through=20 citekeys difficult. For instance I may have 5 cite keys listed as=20 @foo123, @foo345, @foo678, etc. So if, when searching, it could display=20 the author name and book, and then insert the citekey that would be the=20 best!

On Zotero, the BetterBibTeX plugin allows you= to customize the citekey=20 to be exported in the .bib file. This way you can use something like=20 `@author:2010firstwordoftitle` to make it easier to find what you need.
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Em se= xta-feira, 8 de setembro de 2017 =C3=A0s 18:15:34 UTC+1, MK escreveu:
I'= ;ve been using a number of different writing programs recently, and each ti= me I make a switch I always run into the same problem, how to easily insert= citations. Most recently I've been satisfied with Sublime Text and thi= s plugin t= hat reads my .bib file and easily inserts the pandoc citation. Now I'm = fiddling with Ulysses, and I've run into the problem again: how to easi= ly access and insert my citations. I plan on continuing to use a .bib file = and convert with pandoc.

Since I use Launchbar, I = thought that if there were a way to search through my .bib file with that a= nd insert my citation, this would make the issues disappear. However, I'= ;m really not sure how to do it. Essentially I'm looking for the same f= unctionality of that plugin just not tied to sublime text. Any thoughts wou= ld be appreciated!=C2=A0

One related problem I run= into with other options, is that I often have one author with multiple boo= ks which can make searching through citekeys difficult. For instance I may = have 5 cite keys listed as @foo123, @foo345, @foo678, etc. So if, when sear= ching, it could display the author name and book, and then insert the citek= ey that would be the best!

PS I've seen so= me options such as this one by David Sanson=C2=A0whic= h uses bibdesk, and this one which uses text expander, both of which I've= found a little awkward.=C2=A0
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