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From: jcr <ffi.appdev-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Error compiling with icu support / possible workaround?
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 13:29:56 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5035db2e-16b9-4923-8e38-d95b81d27840n@googlegroups.com> (raw)
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I'm not an expert in this, but I believe a pure Haskell solution mean 
implementing the Unicode Collation Algorithm 
<https://unicode.org/reports/tr10/>. The Unicode Common Locale Data 
Repository <http://cldr.unicode.org/> contains the per-locale settings to 
configure the algorithm to sort according to the locale's rules. This is 
what ICU does.

On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 6:56:04 AM UTC+1 John MacFarlane wrote:

> "'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss"
> <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
> > An unofficial fork of text-icu claims to have fixed the issue (
> https://github.com/WorldSEnder/text-icu/commit/7657227a7ca8ad13be86db5c190b806774a5fd6b
> ).
> >
> > I wonder if anyone could indicate how to tweak the pandoc install 
> command to include, for the time being, the WorldSEnder/text-icu fork 
> rather than the official one - or whether there is anything else I could 
> try to fix this issue on the pandoc side. (I tried downgrading icu4c via 
> homebrew, but apparenty no formulae for earlier versions are available.)
>
> Replace stack.yaml with this:
>
>
> ``` stack.yaml
> flags:
> pandoc:
> trypandoc: false
> embed_data_files: true
> QuickCheck:
> old-random: false
> citeproc:
> icu: true
> packages:
> - '.'
> extra-deps:
> - hslua-1.3.0
> - hslua-module-path-0.1.0
> - jira-wiki-markup-1.3.4
> - skylighting-core-0.10.5
> - skylighting-0.10.5
> - doclayout-0.3.0.2
> - citeproc-0.3.0.9
> - texmath-0.12.2
> - random-1.2.0
> - git: https://github.com/WorldSEnder/text-icu
> commit: 7657227a7ca8ad13be86db5c190b806774a5fd6b
> ghc-options:
> "$locals": -fhide-source-paths -Wno-missing-home-modules
> resolver: lts-17.5
> nix:
> packages: [zlib]
> ```
>
> Then stack install.
>
> > As an aside, while I fully understand the wish not having to include a 
> huge external C library by default, I feel that pandoc’s default sorting 
> algorithm, currently based on “i;unicode-casemap” (RFC 5051), is somewhat 
> below par. In particular, it does not even comply with mainstream 
> English-language rules as far accented characters are concerned. The 
> Chicago Manual of Style (17e, 2017, 16.67) unambiguously states: “Words 
> beginning with or including accented letters are alphabetized as though 
> they were unaccented.” One of their examples gives the sort order “Ubeda – 
> Über – Ubina“. Without icu support, pandoc incorrectly sort this as “Ubeda 
> – Ubina – Über“.
>
> Yes. I agree. Actually, if we just need special treatment for
> English locales, then I don't think it should be too hard. We
> can use the Haskell unicode-transforms library (already a
> dependency of pandoc) to normalize the text and then remove
> accents:
>
> Prelude Data.Text.Normalize Data.Text Data.Char> Data.Text.filter (not . 
> isMark) $ normalize NFD "dérégler"
> "deregler"
>
> We could sort on the result of that transform.
>
> (This method would also affect non-Western scripts, though, and
> I don't know what the rules around those are...)
>
> For non-English locales, would we want to fall back to RFC 5051?
>
> I'm not sure what all the relevant rules are; if it's not too
> terribly complicated, I wonder if a pure Haskell library could
> be cooked up. It's a shame that there's no way to do proper
> unicode collation in Haskell without the difficult icu4
> dependency.
>

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Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-21 13:04 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss
2021-03-22  5:55 ` John MacFarlane
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2021-03-22 20:29     ` jcr [this message]
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2021-03-23 19:04         ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]           ` <m2o8f9ofmw.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2021-03-23 19:53             ` 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss
2021-03-25 19:45               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                 ` <m2pmznm2zk.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-04 18:52                   ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                     ` <m2sg457ugn.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-05 23:17                       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                         ` <m21rbos4nd.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-06  9:21                           ` 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss
2021-04-06 16:18                             ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                               ` <m27dlfqtd1.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-06 16:42                                 ` 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss
2021-04-06 18:14                                   ` Bastien DUMONT
2021-04-06 23:38                                     ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                       ` <m2h7kjoueo.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-07  7:52                                         ` BPJ
     [not found]                                           ` <CADAJKhBpFS7Mq7NriLc8wexqwwLsEy+9OmBiNWbPaMgYKy8jbw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-07  9:37                                             ` BPJ
2021-04-07  9:35                                   ` 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss
2021-04-07 10:02                                     ` Bastien DUMONT
2021-04-07 12:32                                     ` BPJ
2021-04-08  1:41                                     ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                       ` <m2wntdo8m2.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-08  2:23                                         ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                           ` <m2o8epo6p8.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-08  7:12                                             ` Bastien DUMONT
2021-04-09 15:34                                             ` John MacFarlane
2021-03-22  5:59 ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]   ` <m235wnpw3l.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2021-03-22  6:08     ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]       ` <m2wntzoh3n.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2021-03-22 14:29         ` 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss
2021-04-17 23:19           ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]             ` <m2eef8ebyx.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-19  9:54               ` 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss
2021-04-19 11:10                 ` Bastien DUMONT
2021-04-19 12:56                   ` 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss
2021-04-19 13:16                     ` Bastien DUMONT
2021-04-19 16:19                       ` John MacFarlane
2021-04-19 16:16                 ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                   ` <m235vmdzbh.fsf-jF64zX8BO08an7k8zZ43ob9bIa4KchGshsV+eolpW18@public.gmane.org>
2021-04-19 16:31                     ` 'Nick Bart' via pandoc-discuss
2021-04-19 18:08                       ` John MacFarlane

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