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with different classes.) Not focusing specifically on HTML, I think that pandoc should allow to uniquely identify, add to a class and set the language to any element, desired text span or division. I know that this is related to a couple of messages I sent yesterday. Sorry for repeating myself, but these are basic features to write documents= . >From the documentation perspective, it would be to apply the type Attr to any constructor from data Block and Inline. And to data TableCell. Although language could be defined as a key-value pair in type Attr, I think is clearer to define a new specific language attribute. Is there anything wrong with this approach? Many thanks for your help, Pablo On 11/11/12 23:36, John MacFarlane wrote: > You've got to remember that pandoc converts the input format to an > internal representation of the document (the 'Pandoc' structure), and > then converts that to the output format. >=20 > This internal representation (see > http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/pandoc-types/1.9.1/doc/html/T= ext-Pandoc-Definition.html) > is much less expressive than HTML, and doesn't have a place for the > attributes you want. That's why they are lost on HTML -> HTML > translation. >=20 > +++ Pablo Rodr=C3=ADguez [Nov 11 12 12:19 ]: >> Hi John, >> >> I'm using pandoc mainly to generate ePub files. >> >> I used textile first as source language, but it isn't fully implemented >> by pandoc and textile itself has issues with multiparagraph elements. >> >> It seems HTML is probably a much better option for pandoc as source >> language, although I have to forget footnotes. There is no way to have >> it all. >> >> But pandoc strips almost all attributes from HTML elements. >> >> A minimal sample: >> >>

    >>

  1. Well there is no other way to tag lingua >> latina.

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  2. Or even classes or ids.

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>> >> Would it be possible that there is an option that doesn't strip off >> attributes from HTML code? >> >> BTW, when converting from HTML to another HTML code, at least id, class >> and lang attributes shouldn't be stripped off by default. >> >> Many thanks for your help, >> >> >> Pablo >> --=20 >> http://www.ousia.tk >> >> --=20 >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s "pandoc-discuss" group. >> To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe= @googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >=20 --=20 http://www.ousia.tk --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to pandoc-discuss+unsubscribe@go= oglegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.