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I believe that is the reason why=20 Zotero does not want to load it. You can type there anything and Zotero=20 loads. But also, the content of the file can be copied to Zotero's style=20 editor. There, it works. Zotero produces the expected output. I am using Zotero 5.0.96.2 and Pandoc 2.14.1. On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 5:15:03 PM UTC+3 Bastien Dumont wrote: > For me too, although the style appears to be valid once you replace the= =20 > slash by an underscore and can be used in the CSL style editor ( > https://editor.citationstyles.org/codeEditor/). > > Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 =C3=A0 02:07:29PM, denis...-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org a =C3= =A9crit : > > Just a side-issue: Checking your style with=20 > https://validator.citationstyles.org/ gives me three errors though on=20 > "title-bib/cit". Probably not related, but anyway. > >=20 > > FWIW, I've tried to cross-check with Zotero, but Zotero refuses to=20 > install your style at all... > >=20 > > > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht----- > > > Von: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > > Im Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. September 2021 16:02 > > > An: pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > > Betreff: Re: Fwd: CSL: conditional text not printed > > >=20 > > > Hm, sorry, I can't see what could be wrong here. The problem may come= =20 > from > > > the fact that the disambiguation code is triggered in subsequent=20 > citations (not > > > in the bibliography, since the entries will be not be formatted in th= e=20 > same way > > > there). If it is true, you've found a bug, but I may have missed=20 > something. > > >=20 > > > Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 =C3=A0 06:28:57AM, Hakan Da=C4=9Fdelen= a =C3=A9crit : > > > > Thanks a lot for the promt relpy. > > > > > > > > I call it under citation and bibliography layout. Here is my CSL=20 > file: > > > > https:// pastebin.com/MdzdZLXs > > > > > > > > Here is a bib file in json: https://pastebin.com/GgWeVU1x > > > > > > > > And here is a bib file in tex: https://pastebin.com/YUb73afz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 3:28:38 PM UTC+3 Bastien Dumont > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > How do you call this macro? Could you provide a CSL file including= =20 > it and a > > > > small example where it should be triggered? Normally it should work= :=20 > see > > > > the related test in citeproc's test suite: [1] > https://github.com/jgm/ > > > > citeproc/blob/1ce8c26a5918c641b6a70d4b4151c7a51ab9a1ed/test/csl/ > > > > disambiguate_ByCiteDisambiguateCondition.txt > > > > > > > > Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 =C3=A0 03:09:14PM, hakan a =C3=A9cri= t : > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I have the following macro in my CSL style file: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use this macro in subsequent citations and bibliography. It=20 > helps me > > > > > to disambiguate works of authors cited with multiple works in=20 > citations > > > > > and to add a short title information at the end of the relevant > > > > > bibliography entries. > > > > > > > > > > When I convert org or tex documents with Pandoc, this macro is=20 > ignored > > > > > and nothing gets printed at the relevant positions. I tried both > > > > > CSL-json and biblatex files as bibliography files. Shorttitle=20 > fields are > > > > > filled in. > > > > > > > > > > How can I have this CSL macro work with Pandoc? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot in advance. > > > > > > > > > > Hakan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl= e > > > Groups > > > > > "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,= =20 > send an > > > > email > > > > > to [1]pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit [2][2] > https://groups.google.com/ > > > > d/msgid/ > > > > > pandoc-discuss/ > > > > > CAL9QFNmVq0NzALJEQe1GCC%2BuFBBT-%3Df_orrFTiFUBok- > > > BS%3D6yw%[3] > > > > 40mail.gmail.com. > > > > > > > > > > References: > > > > > > > > > > [1] mailto:pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > > > > [2] [4]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/ > > > > CAL9QFNmVq0NzALJEQe1GCC%2BuFBBT-%3Df_orrFTiFUBok- > > > BS%3D6yw%40mail.gmail.com? > > > > utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dfooter > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,= =20 > send > > > > an email to [5]pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > > [6]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ > > > > pandoc-discuss/635d04e9-a938-4e2d-8ac0- > > > 81988c8402acn%40googlegroups.com. > > > > > > > > References: > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > https://github.com/jgm/citeproc/blob/1ce8c26a5918c641b6a70d4b4151c7a5= 1 > > > > ab9a1ed/test/csl/disambiguate_ByCiteDisambiguateCondition.txt > > > > [2] https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ > > > > [3] http://40mail.gmail.com/ > > > > [4] > > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc- > > > discuss/CAL9QFNmVq0NzALJEQe1G > > > > CC%2BuFBBT-%3Df_orrFTiFUBok- > > > BS%3D6yw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=3Demail > > > > &utm_source=3Dfooter [5] > > > > mailto:pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org > > > > [6] > > > >=20 > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/635d04e9-a938-4e2d-8a > > > > c0- > > > 81988c8402acn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dfoot= e > > > r > > >=20 > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google=20 > Groups > > > "pandoc-discuss" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, sen= d=20 > an > > > email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc- > > > discuss/YS%2BH5RUDtzym/o/t%40localhost. > >=20 > > --=20 > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google=20 > Groups "pandoc-discuss" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send= =20 > an email to pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFF+G/Ez6ZCGd0@public.gmane.org > > To view this discussion on the web visit=20 > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/9f7cdd53071b42cda9f39403= 9bd293ae%40unibe.ch > . > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= pandoc-discuss" group. 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The style file does not carry an id. I believe that is the reason why = Zotero does not want to load it. You can type there anything and Zotero loa= ds. But also, the content of the file can be copied to Zotero's style edit= or. There, it works. Zotero produces the expected output.

I am using Zotero 5.0.96.2 and Pandoc 2.14.1.

On Wednesday, Sep= tember 1, 2021 at 5:15:03 PM UTC+3 Bastien Dumont wrote:
For me too, although the style = appears to be valid once you replace the slash by an underscore and can be = used in the CSL style editor (https://editor.citationstyles.org/codeEditor/).

Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 =C3=A0 02:07:29PM, denis...-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org a =C3=A9crit :
> Just a side-issue: Checking your style with https://validator.citationstyles.org/ gives me three errors though on "title-bib/cit". Probably not r= elated, but anyway.
>=20
> FWIW, I've tried to cross-check with Zotero, but Zotero refuse= s to install your style at all...
>=20
> > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: pandoc-...@go= oglegroups.com <pandoc-..= .@googlegroups.com>
> > Im Auftrag von Bastien DUMONT
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. September 2021 16:02
> > An: pandoc-...@goo= glegroups.com
> > Betreff: Re: Fwd: CSL: conditional text not printed
> >=20
> > Hm, sorry, I can't see what could be wrong here. The prob= lem may come from
> > the fact that the disambiguation code is triggered in subsequ= ent citations (not
> > in the bibliography, since the entries will be not be formatt= ed in the same way
> > there). If it is true, you've found a bug, but I may have= missed something.
> >=20
> > Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 =C3=A0 06:28:57AM, Hakan Da=C4= =9Fdelen a =C3=A9crit :
> > > Thanks a lot for the promt relpy.
> > >
> > > I call it under citation and bibliography layout. Here i= s my CSL file:
> > > https:// pastebin= .com/MdzdZLXs
> > >
> > > Here is a bib file in json: https://pastebin.com/GgWeVU1x
> > >
> > > And here is a bib file in tex: https://pastebin.com/YUb73afz
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, September 1, 2021 at 3:28:38 PM UTC+3 Bast= ien Dumont
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > How do you call this macro? Could you provide a CSL = file including it and a
> > > small example where it should be triggered? Normally= it should work: see
> > > the related test in citeproc's test suite: [1]https://github.com/jgm/
> > > citeproc/blob/1ce8c26a5918c641b6a70d4b4151c7a51ab9a1= ed/test/csl/
> > > disambiguate_ByCiteDisambiguateCondition.txt
> > >
> > > Le Wednesday 01 September 2021 =C3=A0 03:09:14PM, ha= kan a =C3=A9crit :
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I have the following macro in my CSL style file= :
> > > >
> > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 <macro name=3D"disambiguat= e">
> > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <choose>
> > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <if dis= ambiguate=3D"true">
> > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <= ;text variable=3D"title-short"/>
> > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </if>= ;
> > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </choose>
> > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 </macro>
> > > >
> > > > I use this macro in subsequent citations and bi= bliography. It helps me
> > > > to disambiguate works of authors cited with mul= tiple works in citations
> > > > and to add a short title information at the end= of the relevant
> > > > bibliography entries.
> > > >
> > > > When I convert org or tex documents with Pandoc= , this macro is ignored
> > > > and nothing gets printed at the relevant positi= ons. I tried both
> > > > CSL-json and biblatex files as bibliography fil= es. Shorttitle fields are
> > > > filled in.
> > > >
> > > > How can I have this CSL macro work with Pandoc?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Hakan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > to [1]pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org.
> > > > To view this discussion on the web visit [2][2]= https://groups.google.com/
> > > d/msgid/
> > > > pandoc-discuss/
> > > > CAL9QFNmVq0NzALJEQe1GCC%2BuFBBT-%3Df_orrFTiFUBo= k-
> > BS%3D6yw%[3]
> > > 40mail.gmail.com.
> > > >
> > > > References:
> > > >
> > > > [1] mailto:pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > > > [2] [4]https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/= pandoc-discuss/
> > > CAL9QFNmVq0NzALJEQe1GCC%2BuFBBT-%3Df_orrFTiFUBok-
> > BS%3D6yw%40mail.gmail.com?
> > > utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dfooter
> > >
> > > --
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> > > an email to [5]pandoc-discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org.
> > > To view this discussion on the web visit
> > > [6]ht= tps://groups.google.com/d/msgid/
> > > pandoc-discuss/635d04e9-a938-4e2d-8ac0-
> > 81988c8402acn%40googlegroups= .com.
> > >
> > > References:
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > https://githu= b.com/jgm/citeproc/blob/1ce8c26a5918c641b6a70d4b4151c7a51
> > > ab9a1ed/test/csl/disambiguate_ByCiteDisambiguateConditio= n.txt
> > > [2] h= ttps://groups.google.com/d/msgid/
> > > [3] http://40mail.gmail= .com/
> > > [4]
> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-
> > discuss/CAL9QFNmVq0NzALJEQe1G
> > > CC%2BuFBBT-%3Df_orrFTiFUBok-
> > BS%3D6yw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=3Demail
> > > &utm_source=3Dfooter [5]
> > > mailto:pandoc= -discus...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> > > [6]
> > > https://= groups.google.com/d/msgid/pandoc-discuss/635d04e9-a938-4e2d-8a
> > > c0-
> > 81988c8402acn%40googl= egroups.com?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dfoote
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