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From: Lyndon Drake <isenguard-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Front, main, and back matter?
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2023 22:00:22 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: <49968a6819234bc2a33f72f0197fa1c8-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org>


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I hadn't thought about doing it that way, but it does make sense. My 
template is set up to have the \frontmatter and similar commands in it, and 
I'd been thinking I would do a filter to shift the appropriate sections up 
above the \mainmatter command. But I hadn't realised that the LaTeX would 
be left out of other formats. That means I can just put all the LaTeX 
commands I need, including those currently in the template file, in the MD 
file (actually in my Scrivener file, but that's not actually that 
relevant), and then when I convert to LaTeX it'll end up the way I want it.

On Wednesday, 11 January 2023 at 23:12:24 UTC+13 denis...-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org wrote:

> Addendum:
>
> If you choose to just enter the LaTeX commands directly to your markdown 
> sources, pandoc’s internal representation will look like this :
>
>  
>
> Source :
>
>  
>
> ```
>
> *Hello* world!
>
>  
>
> \frontmatter
>
>  
>
> Hi again
>
> ```
>
>  
>
> Output (native):
>
>  
>
> ```
>
> [ Para [ Emph [ Str "Hello" ] , Space , Str "world!" ]
>
> , RawBlock (Format "tex") "\\frontmatter"
>
> , Para [ Str "Hi" , Space , Str "again" ]
>
> ]
>
> ```
>
>  
>
> So you could even just use the LaTeX commands directly, and use a filter 
> to transform the RawBlocks with content \\frontmatter to something else 
> when your target is not LaTeX.
>
>  
>
> Best,
>
> Denis
>
>  
>
> *Von:* pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> *Im 
> Auftrag von *denis...-NSENcxR/0n0@public.gmane.org
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 11. Januar 2023 11:04
> *An:* pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
> *Cc:* isen...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> *Betreff:* AW: Front, main, and back matter?
>
>  
>
> Hi,
>
>  
>
> if your main/only target is LaTeX, you should be able to just add these 
> command directly to your markdown sources. Pandoc will pass those through 
> as is when the output is LaTeX, and ignore those for other output formats.
>
>  
>
> When you want a more robust solution filters are indeed the way to go. 
> Something as simple as this might already work :
>
>  
>
> function Str (elem)
>
>   if elem.text == "{{frontmatter}}" then 
>
>     if FORMAT:match 'latex' then
>
>       return pandoc.RawBlock('latex','\\fontmatter')
>
>     end
>
>   end
>
> end
>
>  
>
> You can add more instructions for other output formats as needed.
>
>  
>
> Best,
>
> Denis
>
>  
>
> *Von:* pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org> *Im 
> Auftrag von *Lyndon Drake
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 26. Dezember 2022 21:13
> *An:* pandoc-discuss <pandoc-...-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
> *Betreff:* Front, main, and back matter?
>
>  
>
> Hi,
>
>  
>
> Is there any common approach to dealing with front matter, main matter, 
> and back matter? In general front matter is often unnumbered or under a 
> different page numbering scheme (i, ii, iii, …) and includes such things as 
> contents, lists of tables and figures, abbreviations, abstract, preface, 
> and so forth. Main matter then is the body of the work, typically in 
> chapters, and then the back matter is such things as appendices, indices, 
> and bibliographies. In LaTeX these are indicated by the `\frontmatter`, 
> `\mainmatter`, and `\backmatter` commands, but it is possible to do similar 
> things in other formats albeit with less semantic content.
>
>  
>
> At the moment, after producing my LaTeX file, I manually move the 
> `\frontmatter` command to the correct place. I imagine that I might be able 
> to write a filter to do the same thing but I'm not sure how to start.
>
>  
>
> Given that this is no doubt a common issue for the production of books, 
> I'm also wondering if there might be a good way to approach the issue so 
> that (in time) there can be a canonical approach to this?
>
>  
>
> (There might be similar things around 'Part's of books, and to things such 
> as variations in citation formatting per-chapter.)
>
>  
>
> Best,
>
> Lyndon
>
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-14  6:00 UTC|newest]

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2022-12-26 20:13 ` Lyndon Drake
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2023-01-11 10:04     ` AW: " denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0
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2023-01-11 10:12         ` denis.maier-NSENcxR/0n0
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2023-01-14  6:00             ` Lyndon Drake [this message]

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