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From: "Pablo Rodríguez" <oinos-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Specifying location of bibliography in document
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 20:12:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55E498FA.90500@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFC_yuTgry38Odx_CFy5akpY7gfhEfhoPqi9U4=J=dRh8jA1Qw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On 08/31/2015 10:57 AM, BP Jonsson wrote:
> While I share your (Pablo's) irritation over the {X,HT}ML syntax for
> divs and spans every bit I think it is important not to confuse that
> issue with the any questions about the uses of divs or spans, which are
> orthogonal.

Many thanks for your reply, BPJ.

Sorry, but I gave up trying to explain pandoc (or Markdown) to anyone. I
was writing a manual in Spanish, but I’m afraid Markdown is too
complicated to explain to people with no background in text tagging.

Probably I’m wrong in expecting that pandoc could replace word
proccessing programs for average users.

> In principle we could use any markup to signal "the
> references go here", but the idea that that markup should be independent
> both of any particular place in the document and of the header (if any!)
> used for the references section is a sound one, and the marked div
> solution is a good one, semantically speaking.

I didn’t eman that the the solution was wrong semantically speaking.

My point is that this would be harder to understand for average people.
Since we already have section divisions, using them to implement
bibliographies placing would be easier to be understood by a new user.

Extra paragraphs could be added as explained. And hidding a title should
be an easy task.

The problem I see with Markdown (and I’m afraid CommonMark doesn’t solve
it) is that markup is inconsistent for ordinary people.

The simplest rule: paragraphs are formed by consecutive non-empty lines.
Only a blank line builds a new paragraph. Well, and what happens with
titles?

It is a consistent rule for computers (in fact they are two). But The
previous rule isn’t consistent for persons.

Sorry, this is the reason I want to use pandoc, but I won’t try to
explain unnecessarily complicated exceptions.

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-08-31 18:12 UTC|newest]

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2015-08-27 20:46 Jason White
     [not found] ` <E7B49542-12BD-4183-958A-A46D43F5380B-4rxGbHaoKybk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-29 14:04   ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]     ` <20150829140403.GA47273-jF64zX8BO08aTFSqC7bH4WZHpeb/A1Y/@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-29 14:21       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]         ` <20150829142113.GA47586-jF64zX8BO08aTFSqC7bH4WZHpeb/A1Y/@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-29 15:04           ` Pablo Rodríguez
2015-08-29 15:45           ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]             ` <20150829154527.GA49705-jF64zX8BO08aTFSqC7bH4WZHpeb/A1Y/@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-30 20:06               ` Andrew Dunning
     [not found]                 ` <a0b4a70c-7667-4bd1-9c6c-436546d70ddd-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-31  5:54                   ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                     ` <20150831055419.GC60048-jF64zX8BO08aTFSqC7bH4WZHpeb/A1Y/@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-31  7:09                       ` nickbart1980-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found]                         ` <42c762b6-b9b7-4748-b2b9-12daa5046c78-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-31  9:28                           ` nickbart1980-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found]                             ` <ea6da5d7-d98f-47f9-be3e-193adaa10333-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-31 14:13                               ` Andrew Dunning
     [not found]                                 ` <cf0e31df-abc1-41c9-a947-b13066f11da2-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-31 16:25                                   ` nickbart1980-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w
2015-08-31 15:11                           ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                             ` <20150831151128.GF60949-jF64zX8BO08aTFSqC7bH4WZHpeb/A1Y/@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-25  8:38                               ` nickbart1980-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found]                                 ` <e1ffc34d-9306-4988-9218-47c6996c6c3e-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-25 18:07                                   ` John MACFARLANE
     [not found]                                     ` <20150925180738.GD76212-4kKid1p5UN4xFjuZnxJpBp3lxR28IOakuDuwTybUTCk@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-25 21:18                                       ` nickbart1980-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w
2015-09-06  1:15               ` Jason White
2015-08-30 19:06           ` Pablo Rodríguez
     [not found]             ` <55E35446.2000009-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-31  5:52               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                 ` <20150831055213.GB60048-jF64zX8BO08aTFSqC7bH4WZHpeb/A1Y/@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-31 18:28                   ` Pablo Rodríguez
     [not found]                     ` <55E49CBC.9060009-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-31 19:55                       ` John MACFARLANE
2015-08-31  8:57               ` BP Jonsson
     [not found]                 ` <CAFC_yuTgry38Odx_CFy5akpY7gfhEfhoPqi9U4=J=dRh8jA1Qw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-31 18:12                   ` Pablo Rodríguez [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <55E498FA.90500-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-31 19:29                       ` Daniel Staal
2015-09-01 17:55                         ` Pablo Rodríguez
     [not found]                           ` <55E5E686.10900-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-01 19:31                             ` Daniel Staal
2015-09-02 18:37                               ` Pablo Rodríguez
2015-09-02  3:03                             ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                               ` <20150902030325.GI61652-jF64zX8BO08aTFSqC7bH4WZHpeb/A1Y/@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-02 18:46                                 ` Pablo Rodríguez
     [not found]                     ` <13393D201344655C5B10B6A5@192.168.1.50>
     [not found]                       ` <13393D201344655C5B10B6A5-Q0ErXNX1RuZz+/J76PBWHg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-01  7:18                         ` BP Jonsson
     [not found]                           ` <CAFC_yuSTg2S8f3wVBagmFNnsW=_r1hQFWoFumrv4YoDDavgbhw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-01 18:00                             ` Pablo Rodríguez
     [not found]                               ` <55E5E7CD.7060000-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-02 10:35                                 ` BP Jonsson
     [not found]                                   ` <55E6D101.5060205-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-02 17:37                                     ` Daniel Staal
2015-09-02 19:02                                       ` Pablo Rodríguez
2015-09-02 18:54                                     ` Pablo Rodríguez
2016-01-23 18:04   ` John Muccigrosso
2016-01-23 18:04   ` John Muccigrosso
     [not found]     ` <5b3abc65-a90e-49ab-80d5-3c6296bf5980-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-23 22:14       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]         ` <20160123221456.GC82743-jF64zX8BO091tJRe0FUodcM6rOWSkUom@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-23 22:24           ` John Muccigrosso

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