* References error with pandoc 1.15.2 context output
@ 2015-11-20 6:51 Michael Green
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From: Michael Green @ 2015-11-20 6:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
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pandoc 1.15.2 is producing an empty \reference[refs]{} line with the
context writer.
Sample file:
---
references:
- type: article-journal
id: Frankfurt:1971fk
author:
- family: Frankfurt
given: Harry
issued:
date-parts:
- - 1971
title: 'Freedom of the will and the concept of a person'
container-title: Journal of Philosophy
...
Text [@Frankfurt:1971fk].
Output:
\starttext
Text (Frankfurt 1971).
\reference[refs]{}% <--- THIS SHOULD NOT BE HERE
\reference[ref-Frankfurt:1971fk]{}%
Frankfurt, Harry. 1971. “Freedom of the Will and the Concept of a
Person.” {\em Journal of Philosophy}.
\stoptext
I tried it with a few other output formats (markdown, rtf, plain). The
problem seems to be unique to context.
Thank you!
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* Re: References error with pandoc 1.15.2 context output
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From: John MACFARLANE @ 2015-11-20 7:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
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That's a link target for the bibliography as a whole.
Is it problematic?
+++ Michael Green [Nov 19 15 22:51 ]:
> pandoc 1.15.2 is producing an empty \reference[refs]{} line with the
> context writer.
> Sample file:
> ---
> references:
> - type: article-journal
> id: Frankfurt:1971fk
> author:
> - family: Frankfurt
> given: Harry
> issued:
> date-parts:
> - - 1971
> title: 'Freedom of the will and the concept of a person'
> container-title: Journal of Philosophy
> ...
> Text [@Frankfurt:1971fk].
> Output:
> \starttext
> Text (Frankfurt 1971).
> \reference[refs]{}% <--- THIS SHOULD NOT BE HERE
> \reference[ref-Frankfurt:1971fk]{}%
> Frankfurt, Harry. 1971. “Freedom of the Will and the Concept of a
> Person.” {\em Journal of Philosophy}.
> \stoptext
> I tried it with a few other output formats (markdown, rtf, plain). The
> problem seems to be unique to context.
> Thank you!
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* Re: References error with pandoc 1.15.2 context output
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@ 2015-11-20 17:44 ` Michael Green
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From: Michael Green @ 2015-11-20 17:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 11:27:40 PM UTC-8, John MacFarlane wrote:
>
> That's a link target for the bibliography as a whole.
> Is it problematic?
>
It introduces a vertical space of about two lines.
However, this may be a ConTeXt problem. Looking at the examples of how to
use this command, I don't think it should add any space at all.
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/reference
I should have thought to look that up first.
I will ask the ConTeXt list about it. I will get back to you if this is NOT
a ConTeXt problem.
Thank you!
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@ 2015-11-20 20:41 ` Michael Green
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From: Michael Green @ 2015-11-20 20:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 9:44:05 AM UTC-8, Michael Green wrote:
>
> On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 11:27:40 PM UTC-8, John MacFarlane wrote:
>>
>> That's a link target for the bibliography as a whole.
>> Is it problematic?
>>
>
> It introduces a vertical space of about two lines.
>
> …
> I will ask the ConTeXt list about it. I will get back to you if this is
> NOT a ConTeXt problem.
>
>
Update: ConTeXt does what it is supposed to in this case. So, yes, this
link target for the bibliography as a whole does create a problem. Sorry!
Specifically, according to Hans Hagen, when pandoc adds a
\reference[refs]{}%, it injects an (invisible) signal. He explained why
like this: "where does the ref belong to, line 1 or line 2, so best bind it
to a line."
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/92936
Hope that helps.
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* Re: References error with pandoc 1.15.2 context output
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@ 2015-11-21 14:26 ` Pablo Rodríguez
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From: Pablo Rodríguez @ 2015-11-21 14:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 11/20/2015 09:41 PM, Michael Green wrote:
> [...]
> Update: ConTeXt does what it is supposed to in this case. So, yes, this
> link target for the bibliography as a whole does create a problem. Sorry!
>
> Specifically, according to Hans Hagen, when pandoc adds a
> \reference[refs]{}%, it injects an (invisible) signal. He explained why
> like this: "where does the ref belong to, line 1 or line 2, so best bind
> it to a line."
Hi Michael,
I wonder whether \references[refs]{} makes really sense there. I mean,
there is no title in your sample.
In that case I will remove the line after (or any blank line after)
\references[refs]{} and this fixes your problem.
But I wonder what happens when references have a heading (a chapter
title), will the heading contain the reference from \reference[refs]{},
will it have a different reference from \reference[refs]{}, or will it
be provided with no reference?
BTW, when I try to parse your original sample file, I get the following
error message:
pandoc: Could not parse YAML header: did not find expected key "source"
(line 10, column 2)
Is this a bug or am I missing something?
Just in case it helps,
Pablo
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From: Michael Green @ 2015-11-22 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 6:26:51 AM UTC-8, ousia wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> I wonder whether \references[refs]{} makes really sense there. I mean,
> there is no title in your sample.
>
>
It's really a question for someone else. I gather from what John wrote that
the aim is to have a reference target for the bibliography as a whole, as
opposed to the individual entries. I assume it was easier to put it in
regardless of whether there is a heading for the bibliography or not.
> In that case I will remove the line after (or any blank line after)
> \references[refs]{} and this fixes your problem.
>
> But I wonder what happens when references have a heading (a chapter
> title), will the heading contain the reference from \reference[refs]{},
> will it have a different reference from \reference[refs]{}, or will it
> be provided with no reference?
>
I think it gets a reference like any other heading does. In very brief
testing on my part, the empty \reference[refs]{}% appears to be included as
well even when the bibliography has a heading (with its own reference).
>
> BTW, when I try to parse your original sample file, I get the following
> error message:
>
> pandoc: Could not parse YAML header: did not find expected key "source"
> (line 10, column 2)
>
> Is this a bug or am I missing something?
>
>
Sorry, I don't know. I just copied the YAML reference example from the
manual and simplified it. It worked for me.
> Just in case it helps,
>
>
> Pablo
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From: Pablo Rodríguez @ 2015-11-22 0:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 11/22/2015 01:00 AM, Michael Green wrote:
> On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 6:26:51 AM UTC-8, ousia wrote:
>
> I wonder whether \references[refs]{} makes really sense there. I mean,
> there is no title in your sample.
>
> It's really a question for someone else. I gather from what John wrote
> that the aim is to have a reference target for the bibliography as a
> whole, as opposed to the individual entries. I assume it was easier to
> put it in regardless of whether there is a heading for the bibliography
> or not.
I think it only makes sense when there is no title for the bibliography.
Otherwise the heading should have the identifier.
> But I wonder what happens when references have a heading (a chapter
> title), will the heading contain the reference from \reference[refs]{},
> will it have a different reference from \reference[refs]{}, or will it
> be provided with no reference?
>
> I think it gets a reference like any other heading does. In very brief
> testing on my part, the empty \reference[refs]{}% appears to be included
> as well even when the bibliography has a heading (with its own reference).
I think that the heading should get the reference. If there is a
heading, the other reference shouldn’t be generated.
> BTW, when I try to parse your original sample file, I get the following
> error message:
>
> pandoc: Could not parse YAML header: did not find expected key "source"
> (line 10, column 2)
>
> Is this a bug or am I missing something?
>
> Sorry, I don't know. I just copied the YAML reference example from the
> manual and simplified it. It worked for me.
This was an spacing issue (and not invoking the pandoc-citeproc filter).
Now it works for me too.
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From: John MacFarlane @ 2015-11-22 4:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
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To clarify:
pandoc-citeproc puts the entire bibliography in a pandoc Div
element with id 'refs'.
Different writers handle Div elements in different ways.
But in ConTeXt, when there's a Div with a non-null id,
a `\references[id]{}` command is produced. This is to
ensure that there's a target for internal links to that id.
Anyway, that's why you have that `\references[refs]{}`.
Really I just want a link target. If there's a better
way to achieve that in ConTeXt, let me know.
+++ Michael Green [Nov 21 15 16:00 ]:
> On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 6:26:51 AM UTC-8, ousia wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
> I wonder whether \references[refs]{} makes really sense there. I
> mean,
> there is no title in your sample.
>
> It's really a question for someone else. I gather from what John wrote
> that the aim is to have a reference target for the bibliography as a
> whole, as opposed to the individual entries. I assume it was easier to
> put it in regardless of whether there is a heading for the bibliography
> or not.
>
> In that case I will remove the line after (or any blank line after)
> \references[refs]{} and this fixes your problem.
> But I wonder what happens when references have a heading (a chapter
> title), will the heading contain the reference from
> \reference[refs]{},
> will it have a different reference from \reference[refs]{}, or will
> it
> be provided with no reference?
>
> I think it gets a reference like any other heading does. In very brief
> testing on my part, the empty \reference[refs]{}% appears to be
> included as well even when the bibliography has a heading (with its own
> reference).
>
> BTW, when I try to parse your original sample file, I get the
> following
> error message:
> pandoc: Could not parse YAML header: did not find expected key
> "source"
> (line 10, column 2)
> Is this a bug or am I missing something?
>
> Sorry, I don't know. I just copied the YAML reference example from the
> manual and simplified it. It worked for me.
>
> Just in case it helps,
> Pablo
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@ 2015-11-22 17:25 ` Pablo Rodríguez
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From: Pablo Rodríguez @ 2015-11-22 17:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 11/22/2015 05:16 AM, John MacFarlane wrote:
> To clarify:
>
> pandoc-citeproc puts the entire bibliography in a pandoc Div
> element with id 'refs'.
>
> Different writers handle Div elements in different ways.
> But in ConTeXt, when there's a Div with a non-null id,
> a `\references[id]{}` command is produced. This is to
> ensure that there's a target for internal links to that id.
>
> Anyway, that's why you have that `\references[refs]{}`.
> Really I just want a link target. If there's a better
> way to achieve that in ConTeXt, let me know.
John,
the issue here is that a single blank line is irrelevant in SGML/XML,
but it inserts a new paragraph in TeX.
ConTeXt parses the blank line after `\references[id]{}` as if <p></p>
were introduced in XML.
If the ConTeXt writes gives the following output (excerpt):
\reference[refs]{}
\reference[ref-Frankfurt:1971fk]{}%
Frankfurt, Harry. 1971. “Freedom of the Will and the Concept of a
Person.” {\em Journal of Philosophy}.
I suggest removing the blank line after `\references[id]{}`.
As a general rule, any line that only contains a \reference command
should have no blank line after it. Otherwise, you will have a paragraph
in the output PDF document.
Another paragraph would be introduced if a blank line were inserted
after the second \reference command.
So, \reference commands shouldn’t have a blank line after them. Unless
we want an extra paragraph there.
I hope it is clear now,
Pablo
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From: Michael Green @ 2015-11-23 18:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
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It sounds as though pandoc's bibliography Div corresponds to ConTeXt's
sectioning commands: \startsection … \stopsection.
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/startsection
Suppose we define a section called "Bibliography". We can add a reference
to it like this:
\startBibliography[reference=ref]
bibliography entries
\stopBibliography
Is this is a *better* way of doing it? Got me.
It would let us give special styles to the bibliography, like outdented
lines. I don't know how to do that now.
Here is an illustration. I defined a new heading ("Bibliography") based on
a pre-defined one ("subject"). This automatically defines two more
commands: \startBibliography and \stopBibliography.
\definehead[Bibliography][subject]
\setuphead[Bibliography][
insidesection={\startnarrower[left]\setupindenting[-\leftskip,yes]},
indentnext=yes,
aftersection={\stopnarrower},
]
\starttext
\subject{Text}
Text text text (Frankfurt 1971).
\startBibliography[reference=ref,title=My Bibliography]
\reference[ref-Frankfurt:1971fk]{}%
Frankfurt, Harry. 1971. “Freedom of the Will and the Concept of a
Person.” {\em Journal of Philosophy}.
\stopBibliography
\subject{More text}
More text more text more text.
\stoptext
The bibliography section will start with a title ("My Bibliography") that
is styled like a subject level heading.
Text inside \startBibliography … \stopBibliography will be outdented: the
first line for each entry will be flush left and every other line in the
entry will be indented.
Everything before and after \startBibliography … \stopBibliography will
have the default indentation.
mjg
p.s. The keys "insidesection" and "aftersection" are not documented. They
are in the ConTeXt file strc-sec.mkiv. I can't follow the code. I am just
saying that this works. A real ConTeXt person could say why.
On Saturday, November 21, 2015 at 8:16:24 PM UTC-8, John MacFarlane wrote:
>
> To clarify:
>
> pandoc-citeproc puts the entire bibliography in a pandoc Div
> element with id 'refs'.
>
> Different writers handle Div elements in different ways.
> But in ConTeXt, when there's a Div with a non-null id,
> a `\references[id]{}` command is produced. This is to
> ensure that there's a target for internal links to that id.
>
> Anyway, that's why you have that `\references[refs]{}`.
> Really I just want a link target. If there's a better
> way to achieve that in ConTeXt, let me know.
>
>
>
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