* Nested tables: HTML writer bug?
@ 2022-07-22 11:00 William Lupton
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From: William Lupton @ 2022-07-22 11:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss
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All,
[Forked from
https://groups.google.com/g/pandoc-discuss/c/5O6iYmUwFJ8/m/biiwj2njAAAJ]
In the above thread I presented the grid.md example shown at the bottom of
this message. I also couldn't resist trying another level of nesting,
resulting in the grid2.md example shown below. This works, but I'm
wondering whether there's a bug (in the HTML writer) relating to how nested
grid table widths are calculated:
- pandoc -s grid2.md -o grid2.html gives the first image shown below
the markdown, in which the nested grid table has a scroll bar
- The table and column widths are as shown immediately below and I'm
wondering where the width:44% came from. Removing it gives the second
image below the markdown (no scroll bar)
I'm not seriously suggesting actually using a text editor to create deeply
nested tables such as these... but given that it works I wanted to
understand what was going on with the table width calculation.
Thanks,
William
% xmllint -format grid2.html | egrep -e '<(\/?table|col )'
<table style="width:79%;">
<col style="width: 18%"/>
<col style="width: 11%"/>
<col style="width: 50%"/>
<table style="width:44%;">
<col style="width: 18%"/>
<col style="width: 26%"/>
<table>
</table>
</table>
</table>
*grid2.md*
+------------+-------+-----------------------------------+
| Fruit | Price | Advantages |
+============+=======+===================================+
| Bananas | $1.34 | - built-in wrapper |
| | | - bright color |
+------------+-------+-----------------------------------+
| Oranges | $2.10 | - cures scurvy |
| | | - tasty |
+------------+-------+-----------------------------------+
| Apple (pi) | $3.14 | +------------+------------------+ |
| | | | One | Two | |
| | | +============+==================+ |
| | | | my | table | |
| | | +------------+------------------+ |
| | | | is | | Three | Four | | |
| | | | | |-------+------| | |
| | | | | | very | nice | | |
| | | +------------+------------------+ |
+------------+-------+-----------------------------------+
[image: Screenshot 2022-07-22 at 11.46.56.png]
[image: Screenshot 2022-07-22 at 11.57.56.png]
*grid.md*
+---------------+---------------+--------------------+
| Fruit | Price | Advantages |
+===============+===============+====================+
| Bananas | $1.34 | - built-in wrapper |
| | | - bright color |
+---------------+---------------+--------------------+
| Oranges | $2.10 | - cures scurvy |
| | | - tasty |
+---------------+---------------+--------------------+
| Apple (pi) | $3.14 | | One | Two | |
| | | |-----+-------| |
| | | | my | table | |
| | | | is | nice | |
+---------------+---------------+--------------------+
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* Re: Nested tables: HTML writer bug?
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@ 2022-07-22 11:16 ` John MacFarlane
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From: John MacFarlane @ 2022-07-22 11:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw
The `width: 44%` comes in because the nested table is 44% of the overall column width.
Browsers then interpret this as 44% of the containing cell, I guess, which is why you get the odd output.
I don't see a good solution here. The problem is that 44% will be interpreted relative to line length in other formats (e.g. Markdown, LaTeX), so we don't want to change the markdown reader so that it assigns this embedded table a higher relative width. Nor is it clear how we'd change the HTML writer to interpret this width differently. I suppose we could keep track of the width of the containing cell and recompute based on that. You can submit a bug report if you like.
> On Jul 22, 2022, at 1:00 PM, William Lupton <wlupton-QSt+ys/nuMyEUIsrzH9SikB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> [Forked from https://groups.google.com/g/pandoc-discuss/c/5O6iYmUwFJ8/m/biiwj2njAAAJ]
>
> In the above thread I presented the grid.md example shown at the bottom of this message. I also couldn't resist trying another level of nesting, resulting in the grid2.md example shown below. This works, but I'm wondering whether there's a bug (in the HTML writer) relating to how nested grid table widths are calculated:
> • pandoc -s grid2.md -o grid2.html gives the first image shown below the markdown, in which the nested grid table has a scroll bar
> • The table and column widths are as shown immediately below and I'm wondering where the width:44% came from. Removing it gives the second image below the markdown (no scroll bar)
> I'm not seriously suggesting actually using a text editor to create deeply nested tables such as these... but given that it works I wanted to understand what was going on with the table width calculation.
>
> Thanks,
> William
>
> % xmllint -format grid2.html | egrep -e '<(\/?table|col )'
> <table style="width:79%;">
> <col style="width: 18%"/>
> <col style="width: 11%"/>
> <col style="width: 50%"/>
> <table style="width:44%;">
> <col style="width: 18%"/>
> <col style="width: 26%"/>
> <table>
> </table>
> </table>
> </table>
>
> grid2.md
>
> +------------+-------+-----------------------------------+
> | Fruit | Price | Advantages |
> +============+=======+===================================+
> | Bananas | $1.34 | - built-in wrapper |
> | | | - bright color |
> +------------+-------+-----------------------------------+
> | Oranges | $2.10 | - cures scurvy |
> | | | - tasty |
> +------------+-------+-----------------------------------+
> | Apple (pi) | $3.14 | +------------+------------------+ |
> | | | | One | Two | |
> | | | +============+==================+ |
> | | | | my | table | |
> | | | +------------+------------------+ |
> | | | | is | | Three | Four | | |
> | | | | | |-------+------| | |
> | | | | | | very | nice | | |
> | | | +------------+------------------+ |
> +------------+-------+-----------------------------------+
>
> <Screenshot 2022-07-22 at 11.46.56.png>
>
> <Screenshot 2022-07-22 at 11.57.56.png>
>
> grid.md
>
> +---------------+---------------+--------------------+
> | Fruit | Price | Advantages |
> +===============+===============+====================+
> | Bananas | $1.34 | - built-in wrapper |
> | | | - bright color |
> +---------------+---------------+--------------------+
> | Oranges | $2.10 | - cures scurvy |
> | | | - tasty |
> +---------------+---------------+--------------------+
> | Apple (pi) | $3.14 | | One | Two | |
> | | | |-----+-------| |
> | | | | my | table | |
> | | | | is | nice | |
> +---------------+---------------+--------------------+
>
> <Screenshot 2022-07-20 at 23.36.36.png>
>
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* Re: Nested tables: HTML writer bug?
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@ 2022-07-22 11:55 ` William Lupton
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From: William Lupton @ 2022-07-22 11:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: pandoc-discuss
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Thanks!
> I suppose we could keep track of the width of the containing cell and
recompute based on that.
This seems like the right thing to do.
> You can submit a bug report if you like.
OK.
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 at 12:16, John MacFarlane <fiddlosopher-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
wrote:
> The `width: 44%` comes in because the nested table is 44% of the overall
> column width.
>
> Browsers then interpret this as 44% of the containing cell, I guess, which
> is why you get the odd output.
>
> I don't see a good solution here. The problem is that 44% will be
> interpreted relative to line length in other formats (e.g. Markdown,
> LaTeX), so we don't want to change the markdown reader so that it assigns
> this embedded table a higher relative width. Nor is it clear how we'd
> change the HTML writer to interpret this width differently. I suppose we
> could keep track of the width of the containing cell and recompute based on
> that. You can submit a bug report if you like.
>
> > On Jul 22, 2022, at 1:00 PM, William Lupton <wlupton-QSt+ys/nuMyEUIsrzH9SisXa4x6EXUF0@public.gmane.orgg>
> wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > [Forked from
> https://groups.google.com/g/pandoc-discuss/c/5O6iYmUwFJ8/m/biiwj2njAAAJ]
> >
> > In the above thread I presented the grid.md example shown at the bottom
> of this message. I also couldn't resist trying another level of nesting,
> resulting in the grid2.md example shown below. This works, but I'm
> wondering whether there's a bug (in the HTML writer) relating to how nested
> grid table widths are calculated:
> > • pandoc -s grid2.md -o grid2.html gives the first image shown
> below the markdown, in which the nested grid table has a scroll bar
> > • The table and column widths are as shown immediately below and
> I'm wondering where the width:44% came from. Removing it gives the second
> image below the markdown (no scroll bar)
> > I'm not seriously suggesting actually using a text editor to create
> deeply nested tables such as these... but given that it works I wanted to
> understand what was going on with the table width calculation.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > William
> >
> > % xmllint -format grid2.html | egrep -e '<(\/?table|col )'
> > <table style="width:79%;">
> > <col style="width: 18%"/>
> > <col style="width: 11%"/>
> > <col style="width: 50%"/>
> > <table style="width:44%;">
> > <col style="width: 18%"/>
> > <col style="width: 26%"/>
> > <table>
> > </table>
> > </table>
> > </table>
> >
> > grid2.md
> >
> > +------------+-------+-----------------------------------+
> > | Fruit | Price | Advantages |
> > +============+=======+===================================+
> > | Bananas | $1.34 | - built-in wrapper |
> > | | | - bright color |
> > +------------+-------+-----------------------------------+
> > | Oranges | $2.10 | - cures scurvy |
> > | | | - tasty |
> > +------------+-------+-----------------------------------+
> > | Apple (pi) | $3.14 | +------------+------------------+ |
> > | | | | One | Two | |
> > | | | +============+==================+ |
> > | | | | my | table | |
> > | | | +------------+------------------+ |
> > | | | | is | | Three | Four | | |
> > | | | | | |-------+------| | |
> > | | | | | | very | nice | | |
> > | | | +------------+------------------+ |
> > +------------+-------+-----------------------------------+
> >
> > <Screenshot 2022-07-22 at 11.46.56.png>
> >
> > <Screenshot 2022-07-22 at 11.57.56.png>
> >
> > grid.md
> >
> > +---------------+---------------+--------------------+
> > | Fruit | Price | Advantages |
> > +===============+===============+====================+
> > | Bananas | $1.34 | - built-in wrapper |
> > | | | - bright color |
> > +---------------+---------------+--------------------+
> > | Oranges | $2.10 | - cures scurvy |
> > | | | - tasty |
> > +---------------+---------------+--------------------+
> > | Apple (pi) | $3.14 | | One | Two | |
> > | | | |-----+-------| |
> > | | | | my | table | |
> > | | | | is | nice | |
> > +---------------+---------------+--------------------+
> >
> > <Screenshot 2022-07-20 at 23.36.36.png>
> >
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From: EBkysko @ 2022-07-23 21:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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A possible temporary solution (for html, not extensively tested) is to add
this to the style sheet (or as `header-includes` in yaml):
`table table {display:table}`
ie, normal table behavior for inner tables; the default style for the
pandoc html writer is `table {display:block}`.
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From: William Lupton @ 2022-07-24 12:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Interesting. I wonder why the default HTML style has table{display:
block;}. If it didn't, the problem would go away, yes?
Note that this setting was part of https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/pull/6601,
which was merged on 20 Sep 2020
<https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/pull/6601#event-3785590344>.
On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 at 22:24, EBkysko <ebkysko-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> A possible temporary solution (for html, not extensively tested) is to add
> this to the style sheet (or as `header-includes` in yaml):
>
> `table table {display:table}`
>
> ie, normal table behavior for inner tables; the default style for the
> pandoc html writer is `table {display:block}`.
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From: EBkysko @ 2022-07-24 18:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
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usually a hack to display tables on small screens
see:
Displaying large tables in small spaces
<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/table#displaying_large_tables_in_small_spaces>
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From: William Lupton @ 2022-07-25 16:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Any opinions on whether the proposed fix should be to the HTML table width
calculation or to the style?
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> usually a hack to display tables on small screens
>
> see:
> Displaying large tables in small spaces
> <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/table#displaying_large_tables_in_small_spaces>
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From: John MacFarlane @ 2022-07-25 17:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I'd like to hear from Mauro Bieg about why the style says 'display: block' before deciding about this.
> On Jul 25, 2022, at 9:44 AM, William Lupton <wlupton-QSt+ys/nuMyEUIsrzH9SikB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> Any opinions on whether the proposed fix should be to the HTML table width calculation or to the style?
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> On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 at 19:16, EBkysko <ebkysko-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> usually a hack to display tables on small screens
>
> see:
> Displaying large tables in small spaces
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