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From: JM Marcastel <jm-hh8AyDY1G20S+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
To: pandoc-discuss <pandoc-discuss-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: Designing Logo of Pandoc
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 04:47:23 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
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Hello Gents,

Just to give my 2cents thoughts on this. Image or font is, in essence, 
saying raster or vector. Raster is an output. Vector is both an input and 
an output. That vector can take many forms, a font “suitcase” (as once 
called) being one of them.

Many companies — as for instance IBM in our IT world, have had — for 
decades, their logo available as an individual font.

But the gold copy of their logo is always a vector drawing in a dedicated 
container. That is the one that is in the safe and against which legal 
cases are instructed.

Keep in mind too that a logo has a life, and changes. Look at all the 
brands you commonly see, they have significantly changed over the years — a 
general trend being: simplification. Your master copy will evolve; hence 
also the importance of vector.

And speaking of legal aspects, relying on a “foreign” font, even if it is 
freely available, is not a good approach. If you want to use  a specific 
glyph in a font, then extract it, rotate it, do whatever you want with it, 
but keep it separate if it is going to be a logo.

(Obviously you need to be cleared legally when using an existing glyph — 
but this is out of scope here)

What housing format for the gold copy ? PDF is generally considered the 
most “interchangeable container” today supported by all major vector 
drawing software — forget the software specific formats.

What output formats ? A myriad, as many as you need and can support. 
Predefined raster images in various sizes and formats (PNG, JPG, …), 
scalable vector formats (PDF, SVG), fonts (TTF, EOT, WOFF, …), ...

Remember also that a logo is only one component of an organisation’s visual 
statement. Another important consideration is the official colour palette. 
And your logo must be output in all colours of that palette… and ONLY those 
colours.

Less relevant today, but still always present in the visual statement are 
output media considerations — that is grayscale outputs, 2 or 3 colour 
prints, etc.

More fuel for thought if required.

Cheers
Jean-Michel

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2015-08-16  1:44 Yuki Fujiwara
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2015-08-16  5:39   ` Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
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2015-08-16 14:15       ` John MacFarlane
2015-08-22 21:59       ` Yuki Fujiwara
2015-08-16 17:56   ` kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg
     [not found]     ` <12b8f09a-d54d-4a18-9399-1470375a6229-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-16 18:01       ` kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg
     [not found]         ` <4c7820be-d8a9-4293-a7ab-319f11788983-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-16 18:41           ` Daniel Staal
2015-08-16 19:03             ` Nick Moffitt
     [not found]               ` <20150816190327.GI5638-iTLVOByc1N8@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-16 19:33                 ` Stefan Björk
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2015-08-19 11:00                     ` BP Jonsson
     [not found]                       ` <55D461E5.9080609-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-19 15:05                         ` Paulo Ney de Souza
2015-08-19 21:30                     ` John Muccigrosso
2017-01-07 20:12                     ` Steve
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2017-01-07 21:06                         ` Kolen Cheung
2015-08-17 19:10                 ` Marc Chantreux
     [not found]                   ` <20150817191054.GA26303-9qZop888ifDf0CSBMQ/kQGaNMrwwXFdU@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-22  0:01                     ` Luis Rivera
2015-08-22 22:25   ` Yuki Fujiwara
     [not found]     ` <67197fa2-a829-4bb2-a038-4d3c0c991a44-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 10:47       ` kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg
2015-10-31 19:45   ` Albert Krewinkel
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2015-11-01 19:40       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]         ` <20151101194033.GC18654-9Rnp8PDaXcadBw3G0RLmbRFnWt+6NQIA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-01 20:38           ` Nick Moffitt
2015-11-01 22:17           ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found]             ` <3298337b-6214-4927-bca7-d33ccddca3fa-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-08 10:56               ` Kolen Cheung
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2016-12-08 12:31                   ` Joost Kremers
     [not found]                     ` <87shpywqjj.fsf-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+qA@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-08 12:56                       ` Kolen Cheung
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2016-12-08 13:29                           ` BP Jonsson
2016-12-08 12:58                       ` John MacFarlane
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2016-12-08 14:23                           ` Kolen Cheung
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2016-12-08 14:55                               ` John Gabriele
2016-12-08 15:05                               ` BP Jonsson
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2016-12-08 19:40                                   ` John MacFarlane
2016-12-08 23:02                                   ` Kolen Cheung
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2016-12-09  2:26                                       ` Luis Rivera
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2016-12-09  4:14                                           ` John Muccigrosso
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2016-12-09  6:12                                               ` Kolen Cheung
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2016-12-09 10:36                                                   ` Kolen Cheung
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2016-12-09 10:37                                                       ` Kolen Cheung
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2016-12-09 10:38                                                           ` Kolen Cheung
2016-12-09 17:41                                                   ` daniel
2016-12-09  5:53                                           ` Kolen Cheung
2016-12-09 10:54                                           ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                             ` <20161209105407.GB96950-BKjuZOBx5Kn2N3qrpRCZGbhGAdq7xJNKhPhL2mjWHbk@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-09 18:43                                               ` Sergio Correia
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2016-12-13 17:55                                                   ` BP Jonsson
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2016-12-13 19:58                                                       ` BP Jonsson
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2016-12-13 20:12                                                           ` BP Jonsson
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2016-12-13 21:18                                                               ` Alexis BRENON
2016-12-13 21:44                                                               ` Joseph Reagle
     [not found]                                                                 ` <94f82118-1686-e519-e21d-ba4ca64028c7-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-14 16:14                                                                   ` Melroch
2016-12-13 23:29                                                               ` Albert Krewinkel
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2016-12-14  0:14                                                                   ` Kolen Cheung
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2016-12-14 16:45                                                                       ` Melroch
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2016-12-15  0:40                                                                           ` Kolen Cheung
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2016-12-15 23:55                                                                               ` BP Jonsson
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2016-12-16 15:39                                                                                   ` BP Jonsson
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2016-12-16 21:01                                                                                       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <20161216210120.GC15292-l/d5Ua9yGnxXsXJlQylH7w@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-16 22:02                                                                                           ` BP Jonsson
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2016-12-16 22:38                                                                                               ` Kolen Cheung
2016-12-14 16:15                                                                   ` Melroch
2016-12-15 16:18                                                           ` John Muccigrosso
2016-12-09 19:28                                               ` Pablo Rodríguez
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2016-12-09 19:57                                                   ` Joseph Reagle
     [not found]                                                     ` <1783aa7d-e28c-d31a-bd59-b1b02ff8c69c-T1oY19WcHSwdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-09 20:12                                                       ` Pablo Rodríguez
     [not found]                                                         ` <aa540d76-855a-afd2-7d40-cc2372b447b2-S0/GAf8tV78@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-10  2:22                                                           ` Kolen Cheung
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2016-12-10  2:46                                                               ` Kolen Cheung
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2016-12-10  9:40                                                                   ` Alexis BRENON
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2016-12-10 10:04                                                                       ` Joost Kremers
2016-12-10 18:17                                                                       ` John Muccigrosso
     [not found]                                                                         ` <20764ad5-2765-4027-82d9-c7aff7d9cb3f-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-13 14:39                                                                           ` Nick Moffitt
2016-12-09  2:08                           ` Kolen Cheung
2016-12-20 18:14                           ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found]                             ` <87oa06o4cn.fsf-NJ6QtbQ9hATDZamjJ9D3v6C1jgCzLlUE@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-20 18:50                               ` Albert Krewinkel
2018-11-08  2:19                           ` JM Marcastel
     [not found]                             ` <bfa26148-1361-4163-9bfa-bec61a672509-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2018-12-12 16:29                               ` 藤原由来
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2019-12-04  3:29                                   ` allefeld
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2019-12-04  4:41                                       ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                         ` <c5eb6b62-8a6b-4e3c-9f15-1810f90bc4c4-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-04  8:58                                           ` Philip Hodder
2019-12-04 16:58                                           ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                             ` <m2lfrs9gec.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-04 19:44                                               ` allefeld
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2019-12-04 19:54                                                   ` allefeld
     [not found]                                                     ` <757085d5-3ad7-4392-b2d2-2e7f793db493-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-05  3:30                                                       ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                                         ` <a28791eb-2ff1-4cf0-854f-28dc476dd523-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-05 19:14                                                           ` allefeld
     [not found]                                                             ` <04c5fa73-bd6d-460c-bfde-26b92549c6a5-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-06 19:42                                                               ` John Gabriele
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2019-12-06 21:16                                                                   ` allefeld
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2019-12-07 20:28                                                                       ` Benct Philip Jonsson
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2019-12-08  1:23                                                                           ` allefeld
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2019-12-07 20:32                                                             ` Benct Philip Jonsson
     [not found]                                                               ` <d8e2a245-57b6-148d-971f-5ac0c0d295fd-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-08  0:00                                                                 ` Kolen Cheung
2019-12-09 19:58                                                                 ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                                                   ` <m2pngxl19f.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-10  0:04                                                                     ` BPJ
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2019-12-10 23:55                                                                         ` allefeld
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2019-12-11  9:15                                                                             ` Philip Hodder
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2019-12-11  9:33                                                                                 ` Alexis BRENON
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2019-12-11 18:47                                                                                     ` Corentin Dupont
2019-12-11 19:40                                                                                       ` allefeld
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2019-12-11 19:57                                                                                           ` John Gabriele
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2019-12-11 20:59                                                                                               ` thoger.emil
2019-12-11 20:36                                                                                           ` Daniel Staal
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2019-12-11 22:02                                                                                               ` John MacFarlane
2019-12-11 22:14                                                                                               ` allefeld
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2019-12-11 22:19                                                                                                   ` allefeld
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2019-12-12  7:12                                                                                                       ` Alexis BRENON
2019-12-04  9:01                                       ` Philip Hodder
2019-12-04 20:53                                       ` Joseph Reagle
2019-12-04 21:37                                       ` Albert Krewinkel
2016-12-11 13:36                   ` Yuki Fujiwara
2015-11-01 22:16       ` kurt.pfeifle-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg
2016-12-10  2:14   ` Kolen Cheung
2016-12-10 18:50   ` 'Insane' via pandoc-discuss
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2016-12-10 19:21       ` daniel
2016-12-10 19:55   ` 'Insane' via pandoc-discuss
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2016-12-10 21:55       ` Alexis BRENON
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2016-12-10 23:36           ` 'Insane' via pandoc-discuss
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2016-12-11  0:27               ` Kolen Cheung
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2016-12-11 12:48                   ` 'Insane' via pandoc-discuss
2016-12-11  4:13       ` John Muccigrosso
2016-12-12 14:37   ` Alexis BRENON
2016-12-12 15:45   ` Albert Krewinkel
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2016-12-13 13:03       ` Thøger Emil Rivera-Thorsen
2016-12-24  9:25   ` Scott Koga-Browes
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2016-12-24 10:19       ` BP Jonsson
     [not found]         ` <CAFC_yuRsHjxH8os4Dof-StpMyaPihUYNrz_JX-8LWO1jbxQoMg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-24 11:37           ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]             ` <CAFC_yuQFd99YRtvNPXgwMJiJ3=YSVfMZ6zRw1Sb7_ZXyhczzsg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <CAFC_yuQFd99YRtvNPXgwMJiJ3=YSVfMZ6zRw1Sb7_ZXyhczzsg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-24 13:37                 ` BP Jonsson
2016-12-24  9:32   ` Scott Koga-Browes
     [not found]     ` <ec79156b-4ac1-45ae-8cf5-34cef66517fb-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-24  9:41       ` Kolen Cheung
2016-12-24 18:51   ` John Muccigrosso
2016-12-24 19:56   ` Tristano Ajmone
     [not found]     ` <19578491-59c9-4c3a-b32e-6930895c35e3-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-24 22:23       ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]         ` <c8c4dad6-71bd-478f-88ff-d73b81a6f6c1-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-24 23:22           ` Thøger Emil Rivera-Thorsen
     [not found]             ` <a73d8dd4-12a6-ae18-a197-42a36e658d2e-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-25  1:43               ` Kolen Cheung
2016-12-25 11:21           ` Tristano Ajmone
2016-12-25 13:04   ` Tristano Ajmone
     [not found]     ` <b4138da6-e959-46f2-a55d-11e204f4539c-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19  6:03       ` 藤原由来
2017-01-19  8:03         ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found]           ` <87d1fjbhng.fsf-NJ6QtbQ9hATDZamjJ9D3v6C1jgCzLlUE@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19  8:47             ` Sergio Correia
     [not found]               ` <dea3f868-3f9c-496e-8d20-5471582f88cb-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19 11:00                 ` BP Jonsson
2017-01-19 11:22                 ` BP Jonsson
2017-01-19 17:09                 ` Kolen Cheung
2017-01-19 19:09                 ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                   ` <8f9805be-9ec0-4808-8e82-efecf8f0b813-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19 22:14                     ` Sergio Correia
     [not found]                       ` <144500db-fdc8-44fe-99b9-6dab9f85b41a-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20  3:08                         ` Kolen Cheung
2017-01-20  8:44                     ` Alexis BRENON
2017-01-07 21:01   ` Kolen Cheung
2017-01-20  4:34   ` John Muccigrosso
     [not found]     ` <dc5a7597-7de8-40ac-a141-7bf686553aea-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20  9:25       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]         ` <20170120092508.GA39152-BKjuZOBx5Kn2N3qrpRCZGbhGAdq7xJNKhPhL2mjWHbk@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20 14:39           ` John Muccigrosso
2017-01-20 16:20           ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]             ` <e10afef3-a299-4cd4-8085-e63e4a8e4364-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20 19:07               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                 ` <20170120190726.GC97424-l/d5Ua9yGnxXsXJlQylH7w@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20 19:29                   ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                     ` <8cffaac9-e0a6-40da-979c-51393152f1d5-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20 19:32                       ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                         ` <0cf3032f-cd44-4089-9644-4d2dfa0cd128-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20 19:44                           ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                             ` <e65447b5-a22a-4d8b-91ed-7378fc9d0eff-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20 20:52                               ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                 ` <b7b518b7-bbc9-4361-b342-36fbebd2b9df-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20 20:55                                   ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                     ` <d89d816f-fe4e-425c-a266-94918f487769-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-23  9:35                                       ` Alexis BRENON
     [not found]                                         ` <2f91ff31-2f12-4ae8-b9ab-81f521b781b6-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-25 19:11                                           ` Agustín Martín
2017-08-11 14:25   ` Søren ONeill
     [not found]     ` <93375854-9e81-4134-bba2-f37990794101-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23 23:15       ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]         ` <0743792e-004f-46e6-a0c3-bed24954f39e-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-24  8:56           ` 藤原由来
2017-12-11  8:14   ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]     ` <d38d22c6-37d3-4542-9243-764595c16872-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-12  5:08       ` Kolen Cheung
2017-12-12  2:05   ` iandol
     [not found]     ` <e22aa1a5-4789-40e6-9642-8f360fa85313-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-12  4:07       ` iandol
     [not found]         ` <543c6efb-4c53-4c8b-85c2-3841b41d661a-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2017-12-12 21:13           ` BP Jonsson
2019-12-12  9:37   ` Philip Hodder
     [not found]     ` <6053da55-d54b-4b95-929c-627f570d8a64-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-12 20:42       ` allefeld
     [not found]         ` <2d5093b0-826f-491c-b811-b1c661b2f33d-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-14  3:22           ` allefeld
     [not found]             ` <4b36b471-b2f8-43ee-9cca-2803e419f1c3-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-14  3:23               ` allefeld
2019-12-17  5:14               ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                 ` <m2sgljpm8m.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-17 19:09                   ` John Gabriele
     [not found]                     ` <1c03c094-1bc0-4df1-80ee-aa0680ed19aa-jFIJ+Wc5/Vo7lZ9V/NTDHw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-17 23:50                       ` allefeld
     [not found]                         ` <0501a360-19e0-428e-ae55-99844da47261-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-18  4:25                           ` John Gabriele
2019-12-18  9:07                           ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                             ` <61f892ef-39e4-49d2-90ed-9bde0f86d7dd-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-19 23:01                               ` allefeld
     [not found]                                 ` <99cadc8c-ccf3-4c84-8569-cecb67ae65f7-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-22 21:17                                   ` allefeld
     [not found]                                     ` <e7cb59b7-00c5-401e-954f-4f010a7ea360-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-25 22:34                                       ` John Muccigrosso
     [not found]                                         ` <6cb78b3f-0475-4d8e-826a-f3a8a751e6a2-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-25 23:38                                           ` John Gabriele
2019-12-14 16:18   ` mb21
     [not found]     ` <3564f44f-a07b-479d-8746-65e4bd254808-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2019-12-16 14:20       ` Agustín Martín
2019-12-16 15:52       ` John Gabriele
2020-01-02 10:19   ` mb21
     [not found]     ` <afa46a2c-3db0-46e4-8b4c-21acce284234-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-02 18:48       ` allefeld
     [not found]         ` <c3dcb843-c8c9-4ea1-8dcc-7cd742f8f746-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-02 19:49           ` John Gabriele
2020-01-03 12:02           ` T. Emil Rivera-Thorsen
2020-01-03 18:15             ` BPJ
     [not found]               ` <CADAJKhA4Uk4SZf0uTd1FzJ1+3DuwHJSkrf4yPZXdOkAHUynfBQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-05  3:41                 ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                   ` <aeaf4d4e-c5f2-43fc-90f6-bb991b51edc9-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-06  5:40                     ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                       ` <m2pnfxta53.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-09 17:51                         ` allefeld
     [not found]                           ` <921cd6a2-2d51-4c82-bf29-97627318519f-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-14 20:46                             ` BPJ
     [not found]                               ` <CADAJKhARUsq4GnQAuykH4tXjHAaRe=YB2EKEwnshJZ9496K-9Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-15  8:18                                 ` Alexis BRENON
     [not found]                                   ` <CAJPB9o0-2RT=Kd733Xj2vqDTgGoozqX+7V_SCd=LD=6EbuGChg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-15 15:41                                     ` BPJ
     [not found]                                       ` <CADAJKhAnKavwk3CkT77h5Z4jQJetmko-pjR-xhh-DQ+6Ci_sRA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-15 20:38                                         ` allefeld
     [not found]                                           ` <2a2bb039-4d03-474e-922f-b026b5cf7de2-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-16  2:01                                             ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                               ` <1f155e18-8fdd-4bbf-acf8-5ad5f6fce47d-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-16 12:47                                                 ` JM Marcastel [this message]
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2020-01-16 21:13                                                     ` BPJ
2020-01-16 21:00                                                 ` BPJ
2020-01-17  2:22                                                   ` John Gabriele
2020-01-17  2:38                                                     ` John Gabriele
2020-01-18 23:52                                     ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]                                       ` <m24kwsxqxy.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-19  8:08                                         ` 藤原由来
     [not found]                                           ` <CAA4xQMmj9pc3RKC473_Hq_+gSA6DJNkQS2z++OUE6Sp4L6Bv5w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-20 12:58                                             ` Alexis BRENON
2020-01-21 22:05                                         ` Kolen Cheung
     [not found]                                           ` <6af5e7cd-39a3-43c8-ae25-db4972b72b6a-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-22 17:15                                             ` allefeld
     [not found]                                               ` <ebcb7508-7ecc-444b-9e6e-c10d76922753-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-23 20:55                                                 ` EBkysko
     [not found]                                                   ` <7d507651-5a17-4546-b867-7da0a6db5d54-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-23 21:07                                                     ` EBkysko
     [not found]                                                       ` <0abb8b3c-363c-41bd-9430-b9b6cc085d06-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-27  8:30                                                         ` Alexis BRENON
2020-03-07  9:45       ` Albert Krewinkel
2020-01-16 13:16   ` John Muccigrosso
2020-01-22  9:42   ` JM Marcastel
2020-02-01 10:02   ` mb21
     [not found]     ` <b3c94952-a9ae-4ba5-83ec-38f522e0ac06-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-01 10:10       ` mb21
2020-03-08 17:54   ` Vineet Kapil
     [not found]     ` <CAEyhvmqBH8yMXg7_Yq+hzOZC-esM5nuQVAEZzjTAHSdonZSX8Q@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <CAFz9o2rzDn3YFEWaUdyjFzcp4BGnDyPxTjuDH1pdyAeemdqxWg@mail.gmail.com>
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2020-03-09 16:12           ` Corentin Dupont
     [not found]     ` <7bda92b9-79ab-4d90-bee6-bf4a459b5c86-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2020-03-09 16:51       ` John MacFarlane
     [not found]         ` <yh480klfo9cvzy.fsf-pgq/RBwaQ+zq8tPRBa0AtqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-22  3:20           ` Bin Han
     [not found]             ` <dedcd25f-28aa-4b44-b362-f4111bfb751fo-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2021-05-15 16:42               ` M. Rehnert
     [not found]                 ` <39e85238-4c5c-4652-bdda-b04102568f01n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2021-05-21 18:51                   ` mb21
     [not found]                     ` <9df1384b-3009-4f28-a774-e6f1ee960911n-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org>
2021-12-17  1:30                       ` christi...-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
2020-03-12  8:50   ` Ross Woods

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